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    Receptacle on Portable Desk

    Working on a car dealership. Owner wants desks with receptacles on them. These desks are located in the middle of the show rooms, not close to any wall. Debate we are having though:

    Do the receptacles have to be cord and plug, or can they run a conduit up through the floor, couple on flex conduit and hardwire the receptacle on the desk?

    Owner would like the hardwire option as they believe it would be less expensive than installing a floor box with a receptacle.

    #2
    Originally posted by Mr. Pickle View Post
    Owner would like the hardwire option as they believe it would be less expensive than installing a floor box with a receptacle.
    Probably the one to ask about cost is the EC who will be doing the work.

    If the desk is not permanently attached to the floor (like a counter island in a kitchen) I can't see how conduit up through the floor would work. Normally you would install floor boxes with whatever is on the desk plugged into them. Makes relocation easier also.

    -Hal

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      #3
      If you can drill a hole in the floor, just drill a larger hole an install a poke-thru.

      If they move the "portable" desk for an event then what happens with those hardwired receptacles?

      As a side note: I don't take suggestions from customers on the wiring methods that I should use, that's my job. Just as you should not give him suggestions on the best way to sell a car, that's his job.

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        #4
        No, receptacles do not have to be cord and plug.
        Don't worry about hard wiring the desk, especially if the customer prefers that method. If they have to move the desk then hopefully they will call on you again to relocate it.
        I think of it as wiring an office cubical wall.

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          #5
          I could swear there's a code article for this...... ~RJ~

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            #6
            I would opt for floor receptacles with the flip-doors with cord notches in them.
            Master Electrician
            Electrical Contractor
            Richmond, VA

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              #7
              Originally posted by Knuckle Dragger View Post
              I think of it as wiring an office cubical wall.
              Office cubicles don't move. OP is talking about portable desks.
              Originally posted by romex jockey
              I could swear there's a code article for this...... ~RJ~
              Me too. I would think along the lines of the conduit not being supported and the flex subject to damage because its attached to something that has no restriction on movement. I can just see a car salesman not liking where his desk is placed and kicking it over a few feet. Or the cleaning people moving it.

              -Hal

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                #8
                I know what the OP wrote.
                I'm not quite sure what a portable desk is. It sounds like the owner has no intention on moving them around if they what them hardwired. I was trying to give an example of something that is hardwired and not fastened down permanently.
                I would define an office cubical as "portable" because it could be broken down and moved, and in most cases fairly easily.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Knuckle Dragger View Post
                  It sounds like the owner has no intention on moving them around if they what them hardwired.
                  To me it sounds like the owner is just looking at what he thinks is the cheapest way.

                  -Hal


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                    #10
                    Any thoughts on what code article might apply? It is just an office desk sitting on the sales floor.

                    I too think it is silly and ridiculous, but if the owner wants to pay for it so be it as long as it meets code.

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                      #11
                      Poke through floor, install a surface mounted box with receptacle in it.

                      Floor box is what must be used if you are installing it flush in the floor.

                      Only "face up" restrictions I can think of is for receptacles in countertop surfaces.
                      I live for today, I'm just a day behind.

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                        #12
                        again, does it say somewhere in the code that conduit and flex conduit can not be used to wire a receptacle mounted to a desk?
                        Does it state in the code you can't mount a hardware receptacle to a desk?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mr. Pickle View Post
                          again, does it say somewhere in the code that conduit and flex conduit can not be used to wire a receptacle mounted to a desk?
                          Does it state in the code you can't mount a hardware receptacle to a desk?
                          I don't think it does.

                          How secure it is I think is an AHJ judgement call at the most.

                          Really heavy desk may not need to be fastened to be considered secure enough.
                          I live for today, I'm just a day behind.

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                            #14
                            For some reason I think it might more of an issue to install a receptacle with a male whip on it compared to hardwired.
                            I don't have an issue with it either way but the NEC might. I haven't found anything against either way yet.
                            Sorry for the nonanswer.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mr. Pickle View Post

                              Owner would like the hardwire option as they believe it would be less expensive than installing a floor box with a receptacle.
                              If they want the desk hardwired I think I would ask that they be secured to the floor so as not to be portable.

                              In my opinion the floor box is a much more practical design.
                              The 95% of people that you can't trust give the other 5% a bad name.

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