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    Bucket truck CDL

    Anybody know the weight a bucket truck has to be before you need a CDL?

    A truck exactly like this one is what I'm wondering about.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/navymailman/6650591463

    #2
    You should not need one for that truck


    Class A CDL drivers. Drive vehicles weighing 26,001 pounds or greater, or any combination of vehicles weighing 26,001 pounds or greater when towing a trailer weighing more than 10,000 pounds. Transports quantities of hazardous materials that require warning placards under Department of Public Safety regulations.

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      #3
      CDL requirements can vary by state. but I would say No. Basically, "Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds."

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        #4
        Originally posted by Eddy Current View Post
        Anybody know the weight a bucket truck has to be before you need a CDL?

        A truck exactly like this one is what I'm wondering about.

        https://www.flickr.com/photos/navymailman/6650591463
        You won't need a CDL but the truck needs a DOT number for 10000lb gvw and over. This doesn't account for state regulations.

        ....aaaaand the driver needs a DOT Medical Exam and Commercial Motor Vehicle Certification for any vehicles over 10000lb-

        See more at: https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/medical/dr....3SgixmUN.dpuf

        This is why they make 9900lb gvw box trucks, to get around it

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          #5
          Originally posted by nhfire77 View Post
          ...

          ....aaaaand the driver needs a DOT Medical Exam and Commercial Motor Vehicle Certification for any vehicles over 10000lb-

          ...
          I believe that only applies if you operate the vehicle across state lines. If all of your work is within one state you don't need the medical.
          Don, Illinois
          (All code citations are 2017 unless otherwise noted)

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            #6
            Originally posted by don_resqcapt19 View Post
            I believe that only applies if you operate the vehicle across state lines. If all of your work is within one state you don't need the medical.
            Excellent point, I drive two states every day and that was forgotten long long ago

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              #7
              Originally posted by GrayHair View Post
              CDL requirements can vary by state. but I would say No. Basically, "Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds."
              Oh yeah, I forgot to mention it but, I tow a scissor lift around too.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Eddy Current View Post
                Oh yeah, I forgot to mention it but, I tow a scissor lift around too.
                If the trailer and its load exceed 10,000 pounds, that triggers a requirement for the same license that semi drivers need.
                Don, Illinois
                (All code citations are 2017 unless otherwise noted)

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by don_resqcapt19 View Post
                  If the trailer and its load exceed 10,000 pounds, that triggers a requirement for the same license that semi drivers need.
                  I believe the lift is a 26' scissor lift, and weighs between 3000-5000lbs.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by don_resqcapt19 View Post
                    If the trailer and its load exceed 10,000 pounds, that triggers a requirement for the same license that semi drivers need.
                    Are you sure?
                    Ethan Brush - East West Electric. NY, WA. MA

                    "You can't generalize"

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Eddy Current View Post
                      I believe the lift is a 26' scissor lift, and weighs between 3000-5000lbs.
                      Why not run it by a truck stop with a scale; weight with trailer/lift and without. And allow for those bundles of conduit you'll eventually throw on the trailer.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by electrofelon View Post
                        Are you sure?
                        I am very sure it does in Illinois and I believe that comes from the federal CDL rules.
                        Don, Illinois
                        (All code citations are 2017 unless otherwise noted)

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by don_resqcapt19 View Post
                          I am very sure it does in Illinois and I believe that comes from the federal CDL rules.
                          I was looking into that and I found the wording is a bit tricky and not quite uniform between different sources. My final conclusion is that if the trailer is over 10000, the combination cant be over 26000 or else a CDL is required. If the trailer is 10000 or under, the combination can be over 26000, as long as the truck itself isnt.

                          http://www.cdltrainingconsultants.co...ds_a_CDL_.html

                          Whew....Ive been pulling my 14,000 GVWR dump trailer around quite a bit lately and I dont have a cdl.
                          Ethan Brush - East West Electric. NY, WA. MA

                          "You can't generalize"

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by electrofelon View Post
                            I was looking into that and I found the wording is a bit tricky and not quite uniform between different sources. My final conclusion is that if the trailer is over 10000, the combination cant be over 26000 or else a CDL is required. If the trailer is 10000 or under, the combination can be over 26000, as long as the truck itself isnt.

                            http://www.cdltrainingconsultants.co...ds_a_CDL_.html

                            Whew....Ive been pulling my 14,000 GVWR dump trailer around quite a bit lately and I dont have a cdl.
                            Hee
                            Here is what Illinois says. You are closer to being right than I was.
                            Vehicles Requiring a CDL


                            • Any combination of vehicles with a Gross Combination Weight Rating (GCWR) of 26,001 pounds or more, providing the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
                            • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
                            • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
                            • Any vehicle, regardless of size, required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

                            CDL and Non-CDL Classifications
                            • Class A — Combination of vehicles with a GCWR* of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the GVWR of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
                            • Class B — Single vehicle with a GVWR* of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
                            • Class C — Single vehicle with a GVWR* of at least 16,001 pounds but less than 26,001 pounds.
                            • Class D — Single vehicle with a GVWR* of less than 16,001 pounds.
                            • *GCWR — Gross Combination Weight Rating
                            • *GVWR — Gross Vehicle Weight Rating


                            Don, Illinois
                            (All code citations are 2017 unless otherwise noted)

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by don_resqcapt19 View Post
                              I believe that only applies if you operate the vehicle across state lines. If all of your work is within one state you don't need the medical.
                              I am required to have the medical and I work in in Washington,but the rules can vary by state. The most recent change is you need proof of citizenship to renew or apply for CDL
                              Moderator-Washington State
                              Ancora Imparo

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