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    Access to can light junction box from below

    I installed some of these new recessed lights. They have a 2.5" opening. It appears there is no way to access the junction box once the drywall has been installed. Is anyone familiar with this product?
    Am I missing something?

    http://www.trace-lite.com/resources/01_tracelite_literature/01_web-specs/bled2.pdf[/URL]

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    #2
    It looks like the J-box can be accessed through the ceiling hole if you remove the reflector. Whether you can fit your hand through that hole is another matter.
    Master Electrician
    Electrical Contractor
    Richmond, VA

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      #3
      • Housing on IC (insulated ceiling) model can be removed from frame to provide access to junction box
      See, no problem.

      -Hal

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        #4
        Given that your luminaire is LED, there will be a driver that may well need servicing at some point. Removing and re-applying the line side wirenuts is what my local AHJ wants demonstrated. In your case, the only hardware that will allow this is in the remodel configuration.

        I have roughed in loose tails and after the rock is taped I've cut in the remodel units.
        Another Al in Minnesota

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          #5
          Like Ok Larry Fine said.
          Just remove the white portion of the housing stick your tiny hands in there remove the access cover to the j-box portion of he housing and pull the splices through the housing opening.
          I try to make my pig tails as long as possible for this situation.

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            #6
            Originally posted by al hildenbrand View Post
            Given that your luminaire is LED, there will be a driver that may well need servicing at some point. Removing and re-applying the line side wirenuts is what my local AHJ wants demonstrated. In your case, the only hardware that will allow this is in the remodel configuration.

            I have roughed in loose tails and after the rock is taped I've cut in the remodel units.
            Looking at the OP's lights the housing just has a 120 volt connector to connect to the trim. The driver is part of the trim. Access is still required to the junction box but in reality should never need access once installed.
            Curt Swartz
            Electrical Contractor

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              #7
              Originally posted by curt swartz View Post
              Looking at the OP's lights the housing just has a 120 volt connector to connect to the trim. The driver is part of the trim. Access is still required to the junction box but in reality should never need access once installed.
              My AHJ doesn't have an allowance for "in reality should. . . ", only that a 110.14 electrical connection can be made, in the future, on the branch circuit conductors in the luminaire junction box.
              Another Al in Minnesota

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                #8
                Originally posted by al hildenbrand View Post
                My AHJ doesn't have an allowance for "in reality should. . . ", only that a 110.14 electrical connection can be made, in the future, on the branch circuit conductors in the luminaire junction box.
                I never said the junction box didn't need to be accessible. It is accessible by removing the inner housing. It's just not going to be much fun. If there was a driver attached to the box I worry more about better access since it will need to be replaced at some point and I may be the one stuck doing it.
                Curt Swartz
                Electrical Contractor

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                  #9
                  All new construction recessed fixtures have a junction box that is inside the ceiling. If there is no attic, that junction box is not accessible without removing drywall. I never thought about it before but that is a code violation. Still, I have installed many and never had an inspector complain.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Coppersmith View Post
                    All new construction recessed fixtures have a junction box that is inside the ceiling. If there is no attic, that junction box is not accessible without removing drywall.
                    Every one I remember installing can be accessed if you remove the can from the frame, which can be done from inside the room.
                    Master Electrician
                    Electrical Contractor
                    Richmond, VA

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                      #11
                      Box only has opening on one side

                      The junction box of the fixture I posted is not accessible from below. There is a cover on only one side. There is no access through the fixture since the hole is too small for a hand and if you can get your hand in there the junction box is not accessible.

                      Every recessed light fixture, bathroom exhaust fan, heater etc. that I have installed permits access to the splice box from below.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Greg1707 View Post
                        The junction box of the fixture I posted is not accessible from below. There is a cover on only one side. There is no access through the fixture since the hole is too small for a hand and if you can get your hand in there the junction box is not accessible.

                        Every recessed light fixture, bathroom exhaust fan, heater etc. that I have installed permits access to the splice box from below.
                        Well I guess you have to install a code compliant light fixture that will work with the customers specs.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Greg1707 View Post
                          The junction box of the fixture I posted is not accessible from below. There is a cover on only one side. There is no access through the fixture since the hole is too small for a hand and if you can get your hand in there the junction box is not accessible.

                          Every recessed light fixture, bathroom exhaust fan, heater etc. that I have installed permits access to the splice box from below.
                          You answered your own question then, like knuckle dragger said, it looks like you need to be using a different, compliant fixture.

                          Originally posted by Knuckle Dragger View Post
                          Well I guess you have to install a code compliant light fixture that will work with the customers specs.

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                            #14
                            Is there a listing on that fixture?

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                              #15
                              UL Listed

                              Originally posted by oldsparky52 View Post
                              Is there a listing on that fixture?
                              Yes, it has a UL listing. I am just surprised to a see a fixture that is not compliant is available in the "legitimate" electrical market place.

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