GFCI Breaker for Pool Lights

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JPC PE

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Does the NEC 2017 require a gfci circuit breaker to be used to feed pool lighting circuit if the lighting system in using a NSI Industries TPX300 pool light transformer?

The TPX300 is a step down transformer 120 primary / 14 v secondary.

680.23 (A) 3. Says GFCI breakers to be used branch circuits supplying luminaires operating at a voltage greater than the low-voltage contact limit.

Looking at the situation from the primary side one would say YES to the GFCI
Looking it from the secondary side one would say NO.

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Dennis Alwon

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The primary side needs gfci protect however I have never seen gfci protection on the secondary side. We also gfci the line and that's all one can do.

BTw, welcome to the forum
 

hbiss

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I have never seen a GFCI made for LV. Further, because the LV secondary is prohibited from being grounded (IE it's floating), if it should fault to something there would be no risk.

-Hal
 

brantmacga

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The primary side needs gfci protect however I have never seen gfci protection on the secondary side. We also gfci the line and that's all one can do.

BTw, welcome to the forum

Does it ? The LV limit referred to in the article is 50v I believe; If you have less than that going to the shell of the pool I don’t believe a GFCI is required.


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romex jockey

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I have never seen a GFCI made for LV. Further, because the LV secondary is prohibited from being grounded (IE it's floating), if it should fault to something there would be no risk.

-Hal

interesting, was the intent on purpose?....~RJ~
 

romex jockey

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I'm imagining a step potential applies for water, along with those immersed in it

that said the older industrial ungrounded deltas w/impedance shunts (230.82-4) comes to mind

one leg to ground was no thing....

~S~
 
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