A/A Fuel GTX
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For a self contained hot tub, 120 Volt, cord connected, is there a requirement that the receptacle be at least 5 feet away from the edge of the tub?
Self Contained Hot Tub
- Thread starter A/A Fuel GTX
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
Yes, the outlet must be 6' from the tub. I am assuming this is an outdoor installation so the tub must following the requirements of Part II which is the same for a permanently installed pool.
A/A Fuel GTX
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- Electrician
OK, so I go to the jobsite, install the circuit and receptacle per Art 680. The hot tub arrives a few days later. The tub ends up being 2' away from the receptacle. Is that my problem?
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
At very least you should probably warn the owner of what the rules are and maybe have some sort of documentation of that warning.
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
Don't install the receptacle until the tub is there. No inspection???
K8MHZ
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- Electrician
How long are the cords?
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
I believe they can be 15' long
mgookin
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- Fort Myers, FL
If that receptacle is under your permit and/ or your license, yes, it is your problem.
Not your fault necessarily, but it is your problem.
Better coordination in the future may prevent this problem from happening again.
Not your fault necessarily, but it is your problem.
Better coordination in the future may prevent this problem from happening again.
JFletcher
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- Williamsburg, VA
mgookin is correct, however if the GC/prints/HO specced "it is going exactly HERE", which was 6' away, and changed his/her mind, then you've every right to charge to move the receptacle.
A/A Fuel GTX
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- WI & AZ
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- Electrician
The scenario has changed. Now the hot tub is going to be hard wired at 240 volts. I installed a hot tub disconnect with a GFCI breaker and the tub will be 8' away from the disconnect. Now my question is why does Art 680 limit a liquid tight run from the disconnect to the tub to only 6'? What's the big deal if there is an insulated EGC in the liquid tight whip?
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
Don't know why they had that 6 foot limitation. 2014 NEC removed it though.
A/A Fuel GTX
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- WI & AZ
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- Electrician
Yes......Now I see in 680.25 (2014) that LFMC is allowed with an insulated EGC without a length restriction. I'm still working off the 2011 but I feel confident that using LFMC between the disconnect and the hot tub will be compliant.
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
Actually I never realized there was a 6 foot restriction in the past and am sure I have violated it before.
mgookin
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- Fort Myers, FL
JFletcher
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- Williamsburg, VA
brantmacga
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- Georgia
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- Former Child
Maybe part of the same lobbying efforts that had the bonding grid requirement removed.
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