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  • jap
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    Originally posted by MAC702 View Post
    Under $30 on Amazon. There's this one, and there's another with free Prime shipping (faster) for $3 more.

    https://smile.amazon.com/Leviton-Afc...gateway&sr=8-3
    I use my local supply houses for electrical supplies.

    Jap>

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  • synchro
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    Originally posted by brycenesbitt View Post
    Other than the Leviton, are there any available AFCI/GFCI/TR outlets for sale in the USA?

    https://www.legrand.us/radiant/produ...fgf202trw.aspx

    https://www.eaton.com/us/en-us/skuPa...fications.html
    Last edited by synchro; 06-01-19, 03:17 AM.

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  • brycenesbitt
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    Originally posted by hbiss View Post
    The OP still hasn't told us how the work he did triggered the installation of the AFCI receptacle. From what I can see none of the electrical was changed.
    -Hal
    It was considered a "change of use" for the room. Thus a code upgrade.

    That said the AFCI never worked. Right now there's an AFCI and GFCI next to each other, with the laundry plugged into the GFCI.

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  • MAC702
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    Originally posted by jap View Post
    Wow,,,, that thing must be at least $10.00 per syllable.

    JAP>
    Under $30 on Amazon. There's this one, and there's another with free Prime shipping (faster) for $3 more.

    https://smile.amazon.com/Leviton-Afc...gateway&sr=8-3

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  • jap
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    Originally posted by hbiss View Post
    Wow,,,, that thing must be at least $10.00 per syllable.

    JAP>

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  • hbiss
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    Apparently so.

    https://www.leviton.com/en/products/agtr1-w

    -Hal

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  • jap
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    Are they making Arc Fault Ground Fault Tamper Resistant receptacles now?


    JAP>

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  • jap
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    Originally posted by hbiss View Post
    The OP still hasn't told us how the work he did triggered the installation of the AFCI receptacle. From what I can see none of the electrical was changed.

    -Hal
    Yeah,,,, and,,, what's this?? "the AFCI/GFCI/TR is new".

    JAP>

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  • hbiss
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    The OP still hasn't told us how the work he did triggered the installation of the AFCI receptacle. From what I can see none of the electrical was changed.

    -Hal

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  • jap
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    So,,,,, Run an extension cord from another AFCI protected receptacle and watch it trip mid cycle,,, be sure to come back and check for an out of balance spin cycle issue,,,,, swap the AFCi breaker and retest,,,,,, megger the wiring,,,,, clean the dirt and debri from the panel and clean the bussbars,,,, check for any phantom radio interferences or power surges while it's doing it's job,,,, go rent and hook up an oscilloscope that will paint a good picture of what the circuit is doing while the tenants are doing their laundry,,,remove all of the USB/GFI/AFCI outlets and do another meggar test,,,, test all wiring for nailed through and or chewed through romex or AC cable,,,,,


    More or less move in and make this your lifetime service call of duty.


    JAP>

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  • kwired
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    Originally posted by texie View Post
    The US version is run by NEMA. Here is a link: https://www.afcisafety.org/home-owners/unwanted-tripping/

    By all means knock your self out. Would love to see a response.
    It is a problem report line, not a solutions line

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  • texie
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    Originally posted by brycenesbitt View Post
    Years ago I found an USA based AFCI problem report line, but I can't find it now -- does it still exist?
    The US version is run by NEMA. Here is a link: https://www.afcisafety.org/home-owners/unwanted-tripping/

    By all means knock your self out. Would love to see a response.

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  • hbiss
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    The area is existing unfinished space with surface mounted metal boxes and armored cable. The circuit is 20 amps, and a dedicated single home run to the single outlet (no stab wiring in sight). The wire and circuit itself is probably from the 1980's, the 20 amp breaker is new...
    What did you do that requires the installation of the AFCI?

    I wouldn't over think this by believing the AFCI is not what's causing the problem and it has to be elsewhere by the way. Dollars to donuts you will never get that machine to work with one.

    Years ago I found an USA based AFCI problem report line, but I can't find it now -- does it still exist?
    That had to be a joke.


    -Hal

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  • brycenesbitt
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    Has anyone found a problem upstream of an AFCI, that tripped the AFCI?
    This is a single home run from AFCI to the sub-panel, but the sub-panel itself has lots of things
    connected from new MC to a common neutral K&T breaker.

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  • tortuga
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    Originally posted by ramsy View Post
    Megger @ 100 volts wont damage old wiring, but may help find loose wires.

    I second the megger test. I get called out to megger AFCI problems at 900V for 1 minute, there is a megger test described in the code under manufactured homes we have used for years (550.17 was the code reference but that may not be up to date). Also a voltage drop test like an Ideal Sure Test is quite handy. Just make sure to remove all appliance cords, powered devices, lightbulbs, dimmers and USB/AFCI/GFCI receptacles etc.
    Last AFCI tripping problem I solved was a piece of protective paper had not been removed from a screw shell. Many I find are romex with nails or screws thru wires or romex chewed bare.
    Hope this helps.

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