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    Small storage room panelboard

    I have 120/208V three phase 200 amps panelboard installed in as defined by Architect to be small storage room of tenant space. Yes their is enough workspace as defined in 110.26(A) 3 feet without door swing.

    However, the panelboard is located in storage room back of tenant space. Nec 2014 Article 110.26(B) says work space required by this section shall not be used for storage.

    So, installing panelboard in storage room is it violation of 110.26(B)?

    #2
    110.26(B) says the working space required by that section shall not be used for storage, it does not prohibit storage in the room in general.
    If you install a panel there you should stop by on a weekly basis to assure the area is clear
    At my age, I'm accustomed to restaurants asking me to pay in advance, but now my bank has started sending me their calendar one month at a time.

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      #3
      Originally posted by augie47 View Post
      110.26(B) says the working space required by that section shall not be used for storage, it does not prohibit storage in the room in general.
      If you install a panel there you should stop by on a weekly basis to assure the area is clear
      Joking? Who does that and what AHJ inspector stops after job is closed stop by weekly. Most of the time its forgotten that panel is even there. No?
      Last edited by hhsting; 05-15-19, 03:13 PM.

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        #4
        Originally posted by hhsting View Post
        Joking? Who does that and what AHJ inspector stops after job is closed stop by weekly. Most of the time its forgotten that panel is even there. No?
        I have frequently seen and required that the working space be labeled on the floor, stating "No Storage".
        The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain

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          #5
          Originally posted by hhsting View Post
          Joking? Who does that and what AHJ inspector stops after job is closed stop by weekly. Most of the time its forgotten that panel is even there. No?
          Surprising !
          At my age, I'm accustomed to restaurants asking me to pay in advance, but now my bank has started sending me their calendar one month at a time.

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            #6
            If a panel is behind a door, then you don't have to worry about stuff getting piled in front of the panel, for that reason always considered it the ideal location for a panel.

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              #7
              Originally posted by norcal View Post
              If a panel is behind a door, then you don't have to worry about stuff getting piled in front of the panel, for that reason always considered it the ideal location for a panel.
              Plus it's very easy to just back away if needed.

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                #8
                Originally posted by oldsparky52 View Post
                Plus it's very easy to just back away if needed.
                But your exit is blocked because the door is closed...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by PaulMmn View Post
                  But your exit is blocked because the door is closed...
                  You would close the door while working in that panel? I wouldn't.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by oldsparky52 View Post
                    You would close the door while working in that panel? I wouldn't.
                    If the panel is behind the door, you'd have to!

                    edit--

                    Or does the person who first mentioned The Door mean that the panel is in a shallow closet, therefore is 'behind a door?'

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by PaulMmn View Post
                      If the panel is behind the door, you'd have to!

                      edit--

                      Or does the person who first mentioned The Door mean that the panel is in a shallow closet, therefore is 'behind a door?'
                      I don't remember seeing a closet door open in, I thought they all opened outwards.

                      I admit though, I could have totally misunderstood the OP.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by dkidd View Post
                        I have frequently seen and required that the working space be labeled on the floor, stating "No Storage".
                        I've seen those warning labels on the floor myself.

                        That is after I've move all of the trash cans, mop buckets, mops, brooms, vacuum cleaners, ETC.. out of the way.

                        JAP>

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by PaulMmn View Post
                          If the panel is behind the door, you'd have to!

                          edit--

                          Or does the person who first mentioned The Door mean that the panel is in a shallow closet, therefore is 'behind a door?'


                          I would think that any panel located in any room that had a door on it would be " behind the door" in one way or another.


                          JAP>

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by oldsparky52 View Post
                            Plus it's very easy to just back away if needed.
                            Originally posted by jap View Post
                            I would think that any panel located in any room that had a door on it would be " behind the door" in one way or another. JAP>
                            >Pbbbbbbbbblt!<

                            I'm trying to figure out if if OldSparky was talking about a panel behind any old door, where you'd be blocking your escape route to work on the panel, or a door that put the panel in its own closet.

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                              #15
                              There seems to be some confusion. So let me digress a moment and give my views on doors and panels.

                              Standing in a room, look at the exit door. You see a panel to its left. It's flush mounted. The door has hinges on its left side (i.e., near the panel), and it opens inward. With the door fully open, it blocks the panel. With the door halfway closed or even fully closed, you can get to the panel and you have working clearance. I am perfectly OK with this arrangement. Yes, my exit from the room is blocked by the closed door. But if you are talking about "large equipment," there must be a second exit. If you are talking about a common branch panelboard, it is enough that you have working clearance. The NEC rules do not require there to be an accommodation for exiting the room without passing close to the panel.

                              If you are concerned about walking too close to a sparking panel as you try to reach the door, then walk to the other side of the room, lay down, and take a nap until the sparking ends or someone comes to "rescue" you. OK, that part was a bit facetious. What I mean is that once you are no longer within the working space, you are safe. Nothing else matters.
                              Charles E. Beck, P.E., Seattle
                              Comments based on 2017 NEC unless otherwise noted.

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