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    Replacing ground rod due to equipment relocation. Removal of old grounding rods?

    Is there any requirement to point me to about ground rods removal? The equipment will be relocated and will requires new grounding grid. I am trying to tell them to removal the old ones instead abandoned it

    #2
    No.

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      #3
      Nothing in the NEC about it. Job specs might require it, though.

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        #4
        Well, there is 250.50, all electrodes present, so it could be argued that if they are still there they must be used.

        Roger
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          #5
          Pulling a rod is very difficult, if not impossible.
          Master Electrician
          Electrical Contractor
          Richmond, VA

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            #6
            Originally posted by LarryFine View Post
            Pulling a rod is very difficult, if not impossible.
            Pffft.



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              #7
              I probably could have pulled that 3' piece of rod by hand. Geez-- you think he would have shown the ability of that tool on an 8' rod
              They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy
              She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me
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                #8
                Originally posted by Dennis Alwon View Post
                I probably could have pulled that 3' piece of rod by hand. Geez-- you think he would have shown the ability of that tool on an 8' rod


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                  #9
                  As Roger pointed out they're technically still present and must be used, that is unless you cut off an inch or two.
                  Rob

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                  All responses based on the 2014 NEC unless otherwise noted

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                    #10
                    Thanks!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by thewire View Post
                      Is there any requirement to point me to about ground rods removal? The equipment will be relocated and will requires new grounding grid. I am trying to tell them to removal the old ones instead abandoned it
                      Also what exactly is this equipment and is this in a structure? Rods at equipment, despite being a common MFG spec, probably increase risks.
                      Ethan Brush - East West Electric. NY, WA. MA

                      "You can't generalize"

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                        #12
                        I don't agree with the fact that it must be used. If you are driving 2 rods at the new service then that should comply with the code. Adding another rod whether it exists or not is not necessary. Probably a moot point as there probably isn't anyone that would look at it twice.
                        They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy
                        She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me
                        I can't help it if I'm lucky


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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dennis Alwon View Post
                          I probably could have pulled that 3' piece of rod by hand. Geez-- you think he would have shown the ability of that tool on an 8' rod
                          Um.... maybe they used a short rod because
                          1. it was easier to drive in
                          2. it made for a shorter video
                          3. it was just a demo

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by 480sparky View Post
                            Um.... maybe they used a short rod because
                            1. it was easier to drive in
                            2. it made for a shorter video
                            3. it was just a demo

                            yes, they cut corners and did the demo injustice...just as I implied
                            They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy
                            She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me
                            I can't help it if I'm lucky


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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dennis Alwon View Post
                              yes, they cut corners and did the demo injustice...just as I implied
                              i'm amazed at why it's a thing.

                              as for having to use that scrap piece of steel rod stuck in
                              the ground over there, i have a milwualkee battery powered
                              4" grinder with a cutoff wheel that will cut it off flush, so
                              you don't step on it and hurt yourself. i even have a shovel
                              so i can dig down 6" before cutting it off, so it's even safer.
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