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    #46
    Originally posted by jaggedben View Post
    Sheesh Wayne, if I were doing this I would have to consider whether it would take me more time to work through the logic than to just cover one panel at a time.
    Yeah, the 5-15 minutes wait time per measurement made it seem like it was worth minimizing the number of measurements. And I have strong preference for thinking over labor, so I may overthink things. :-)

    Cheers, Wayne

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      #47
      Originally posted by jaggedben View Post
      Sheesh Wayne, if I were doing this I would have to consider whether it would take me more time to work through the logic than to just cover one panel at a time.

      In seriousness, I suppose it would depend on the details of the size and number of arrays and how many panels were identifiable by other means.

      five.five.six, I would probably suggest in this order:

      1) camera, selfie stick. (You might be able to get the numbers on the top of the optimizers this way. There are labels on both top and bottom.)
      2) safely disconnect one string
      3) temporary covering

      Between 1 and 2, depending on your luck, you might be able to narrow it down to where only a minority are 'faked'.

      The most important thing would be to keep careful notes throughout.
      I had thought about the selfi stick and I could get almost all of them and they are facing heat sink up but I think the serial number is stuck to the mounting bracket which is clamped to rail.


      Trust me, I won’t make this mistake again. I did draw a map before I connected the modules so I do know which is which. I have 2 strings of 13 so, it’s a bit of work at 15 min each.

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        #48
        I think I may have screwed up. Is it allowable for PV AC circuits to share the same raceway as other circuits? It just worked out this way and I piped it without thinking but decided I didn’t want any EMT on the outside of the house and the PV AC wires enter the main service through the 8x8x4 box on the left which is chase nippled into the back of the service.



        https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/9031/oKjnfS.jpg


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          #49
          It's fine. DC circuits would be a problem but AC circuits are not.

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            #50
            Originally posted by jaggedben View Post
            Depending on the rail you used, it may be possible to stick a cell phone under the array and get pics of some of the optimizer serial numbers on the bottom of the mounting bracket. That is for optimizers mounted near enough to the edge of the array.

            Otherwise, you can just fake your way through the array map and as long as you are the one doing any servicing it won't really matter. Later on if/when you have to pull up panels to find a bad optimizer you can take that opportunity to correct relevant portions of the map.

            Don't ask me how I know these things.


            Soooo....

            I ended up doing it a little different. Turns out if you are on the same WiFi as the SolarEdge inverter is on, you can just put the inverter’s IP in your browser and navigate:

            maintenance > diagnostics > optimizer status

            There you get a list of all your optimizers. They update every 3-5 minutes.

            Turns out that you don’t have to shade the module much at all to see a huge dip in output.

            I did 8 of them in about an hour. Not great but much better than lifting all the mods

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              #51
              We have had a couple installs where the crew misplaced the optimizer map. On one of them, there was some shading from a tree in the late afternoon. I was able to figure out where all the optimizers were located by looking at how the shadow moved across the array. If one didn't have any shading on their array, I suppose one could erect a pole in the yard to create a shadow that sweeps across the array. Might be more trouble than it's worth.

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                #52
                I thought you were using optimizers? The brands I'm aware of keeping the voltage safe until you turn the system on. guideadda

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                  #53
                  All I have left is stucco patch and I can call for inspection. I’m really excited about making energy

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                    #54
                    I’d like to thank everybody that helped. I got my final on Wednesday, inspection lasted 3 minutes max. Inspector took one look behind the dead-front and signed the card. I uploaded an image if the jobcard to SCE and had my permission to generate about 12 hrs later.

                    I still haven’t figured out how to setup solar edge monitoring but I’ll hit their help section.

                    Thanks again!

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                      #55
                      Actually, I am pulling my freaking hair out setting up the monitoring for the site. Not only have I failed miserably at finding any sort of support documentation as to how to apply the specific site to the monitoring platform on the SolarEdge server, their server is so freaking slow AF I don’t see how I could ever subject a customer to this sort of torture and still sleep at night.

                      At this point, I am seriously considering ripping it and the optomizers out, throwing them in an E-waste bin and spending $3k + 30 hours to replace it all with any product that doesn’t make me want to punch a hole in the wall.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by five.five-six View Post
                        Actually, I am pulling my freaking hair out setting up the monitoring for the site. Not only have I failed miserably at finding any sort of support documentation as to how to apply the specific site to the monitoring platform on the SolarEdge server, their server is so freaking slow AF I don’t see how I could ever subject a customer to this sort of torture and still sleep at night.

                        At this point, I am seriously considering ripping it and the optomizers out, throwing them in an E-waste bin and spending $3k + 30 hours to replace it all with any product that doesn’t make me want to punch a hole in the wall.
                        Lol. SolarEdge.

                        You need to register as an installer and then login at monitoring.solaredge.com. Then look for Create New Site on the home screen.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by jaggedben View Post

                          Lol. SolarEdge.

                          You need to register as an installer and then login at monitoring.solaredge.com. Then look for Create New Site on the home screen.
                          I am a registered installer

                          but I can’t seem to figure out how to apply the serial numbers and map from SiteMapper app to the monitoring platform SE hosts

                          I’ll admit that I’m not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but I’m not so dumb that this should be difficult.

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                            #58
                            Well, I got the monitoring going and I never knew this but I hate clouds.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by five.five-six View Post
                              Well, I got the monitoring going and I never knew this but I hate clouds.
                              You mean clouds shading your solar panels or getting your monitoring data through the cloud?

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by jaggedben View Post

                                You mean clouds shading your solar panels or getting your monitoring data through the cloud?
                                I was wondering the same thing! One thing many people don't realize is how much energy you get even when its cloudy (unless its really really dark and cloudy of course). I am usually pleasantly surprised when I see how much I am still making without direct sun.
                                Ethan Brush - East West Electric. NY, WA. MA

                                "You can't generalize"

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