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    Mandatory backup power for HVAC systems in Heath Care Facilities

    Would mandating cooling systems to be (required) on backup power in health care facilities and nursing homes be a worthwhile code proposal? While we do not know the specifics in this case, over the years I have seen many stories where facilities loose power and quickly become functionally inoperative due to the lack of AC.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/u...a.html?mcubz=0


    Many major hospitals and level 1 trauma centers have moved to full backup power finding it pays for itself, but currently it is not required by code.
    Our comedian shamelessly joked about a blackout. Talk about dark humor.

    #2
    Nursing homes here in Fl are required to have an "alternative source of power" although there is no requirement as to what that shall be.

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      #3
      Originally posted by chris kennedy View Post
      Nursing homes here in Fl are required to have an "alternative source of power" although there is no requirement as to what that shall be.
      Does it mention how much it should power?
      Our comedian shamelessly joked about a blackout. Talk about dark humor.

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        #4
        Not sure, heard it on NPR this morning. We take care of a number that have Genny's for life safety and critical but not HVAC.

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          #5
          Originally posted by chris kennedy View Post
          Not sure, heard it on NPR this morning. We take care of a number that have Genny's for life safety and critical but not HVAC.
          Thats usually how it is, only the bare minimum is put on generator as code requires.
          Our comedian shamelessly joked about a blackout. Talk about dark humor.

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            #6
            I expect that proposal would have to be to NFPA 99, and not NFPA 70. 99 is the controlling document for health care facilities.
            Don, Illinois
            (All code citations are 2017 unless otherwise noted)

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              #7
              Originally posted by don_resqcapt19 View Post
              I expect that proposal would have to be to NFPA 99, and not NFPA 70. 99 is the controlling document for health care facilities.
              But 70 holds the requirements for what is to be backed up and to which branch/ATS. I mean the two go hand in hand, at least thats my understanding.
              Our comedian shamelessly joked about a blackout. Talk about dark humor.

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                #8
                Yes 99 and 70 do go hand in hand. We are past the cutoff for first drafts for the 2020 NEC, if the NFPA 99 revision cycle starts in the next three years start there. Otherwise you will be on the 2023 NEC
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by mbrooke View Post
                  But 70 holds the requirements for what is to be backed up and to which branch/ATS. I mean the two go hand in hand, at least thats my understanding.
                  The way I see it is if 99 would call an HVAC load a critical load then 70 would have to treat it as one. I could see this being more likely for surgical areas, critical care areas, etc. but more likely an optional load if to be transferred for general care areas.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mbrooke View Post
                    But 70 holds the requirements for what is to be backed up and to which branch/ATS. I mean the two go hand in hand, at least thats my understanding.
                    My understanding is that the NEC only provides the installation requirements, and NFPA 99 specifies what is to be backed up. In 517, the requirements that tell what is to be backed up all have a [bracketed] reference to NFPA 99. That means the information preceding the brackets has been extracted from 99.
                    Don, Illinois
                    (All code citations are 2017 unless otherwise noted)

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by don_resqcapt19 View Post
                      My understanding is that the NEC only provides the installation requirements, and NFPA 99 specifies what is to be backed up. In 517, the requirements that tell what is to be backed up all have a [bracketed] reference to NFPA 99. That means the information preceding the brackets has been extracted from 99.
                      Makes sense. So in order to change the NEC, I'd need to change 99, right?
                      Our comedian shamelessly joked about a blackout. Talk about dark humor.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by mbrooke View Post
                        Makes sense. So in order to change the NEC, I'd need to change 99, right?
                        Probably no need to do anything with the NEC. Just a requirement that in 99 that those facilities have AC systems supplied by a back up power system.
                        Don, Illinois
                        (All code citations are 2017 unless otherwise noted)

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                          #13
                          This type of requirement, if proposed should be in the building code, not the NEC

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