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    Final Vote on 2020 NEC?????

    I was told that the NEC held a final vote on the 2020 nec but I don'see it on the site. Does any know if this is true-- I got it from someone locally

    210.8 New GFCI requirements.


    1. Dryer will be required to be GFCI protected
    2. Range will be required to be GFCI protected
    3. A/C unit will be required to be GFCI protected
    4. Electric Furnace if installed in crawl space, garage, or basement and 50 amps or less will be required to be GFCI protected
    5. Water Heated if installed in crawl space, garage, or basement will be required to be GFCI protected
    6. Basement receptacles will be required to be GFCI protected (unfinished or finished)


    210.12 New AFCI Requirements


    1. All 120 volt 15 and 20 amp circuits in a dwelling unit will be required to be AFCI protected 230.67

    1. Each Dwelling unit will be required to be protected with Surge Protection 230.85


    1. Each dwelling unit will be required to have an emergency disconnect on the exterior of dwelling
    They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy
    She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me
    I can't help it if I'm lucky

    #2
    I see they took part of my proposal for 210.12(D) Modifications -- I wanted to extend the length and get the cmp to exclude the length inside of JB's and enclosures. They choose the latter----
    They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy
    She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me
    I can't help it if I'm lucky

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      #3
      What was the vote in the ROP?

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        #4
        Originally posted by 480sparky View Post
        What was the vote in the ROP?

        I don't know...I still have a hard time with their site on Next Edition-- I don't think they put the whole thing together yet but according to my source this was the final vote with panel 2
        They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy
        She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me
        I can't help it if I'm lucky

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          #5
          I see most proposal are for all receptacles 120-240 v must be gfci protected. What I don't see is that all circuits, with or without a receptacle, will need gfci
          They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy
          She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me
          I can't help it if I'm lucky

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            #6
            Originally posted by Dennis Alwon View Post
            I was told that the NEC held a final vote on the 2020 nec but I don'see it on the site. Does any know if this is true-- I got it from someone locally

            210.8 New GFCI requirements.


            1. Dryer will be required to be GFCI protected
            2. Range will be required to be GFCI protected
            3. A/C unit will be required to be GFCI protected
            4. Electric Furnace if installed in crawl space, garage, or basement and 50 amps or less will be required to be GFCI protected
            5. Water Heated if installed in crawl space, garage, or basement will be required to be GFCI protected
            6. Basement receptacles will be required to be GFCI protected (unfinished or finished)


            210.12 New AFCI Requirements


            1. All 120 volt 15 and 20 amp circuits in a dwelling unit will be required to be AFCI protected 230.67

            1. Each Dwelling unit will be required to be protected with Surge Protection 230.85


            1. Each dwelling unit will be required to have an emergency disconnect on the exterior of dwelling
            I hate most of these.
            Rob

            Moderator

            All responses based on the 2014 NEC unless otherwise noted

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              #7
              Originally posted by infinity View Post
              I hate most of these.
              I agree. This is nuts.
              If Billy Idol is on your playlist go reevaluate your life.

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                #8
                All of the Certified Amending Motions that passed at the technical session go back the the CMPs, and have to be approved by a 2/3s vote of the panel members, and then, it goes to the Standards Council where it has to be approved again by a 3/4s vote of the Standards Council members, so those sections are not yet final. There is also the chance of appeals to the Standards Council for CAMs that failed to get a majority vote at the technical session.
                Don, Illinois
                (All code citations are 2017 unless otherwise noted)

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                  #9
                  I am not aware of any specific rule that would require water heaters to have GFCI protection, unless they are cord and plug connected.
                  Don, Illinois
                  (All code citations are 2017 unless otherwise noted)

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                    #10
                    In two or three more Code cycles, it'll be too expensive to wire an affordable house.

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                      #11
                      The argument for making all basement receptacles gfci protected was made based on the fact that being finished didn't guarantee a non conductive surface, st least by one proposal. How ridiculous. How is that different from a house on a slab---

                      I better not give them any ideas.

                      Don, that was my point about the receptacle being gfci not hot wired. We will see.
                      They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy
                      She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me
                      I can't help it if I'm lucky

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by 480sparky View Post
                        In two or three more Code cycles, it'll be too expensive to wire an affordable house.
                        My bet is NC will amend this if it is passed
                        They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy
                        She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me
                        I can't help it if I'm lucky

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                          #13
                          So do we as tradesmen need to buy our way into the nfpa to view what's being decided for us?

                          ~RJ~

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by romex jockey View Post
                            So do we as tradesmen need to buy our way into the nfpa to view what's being decided for us?

                            ~RJ~
                            No, I am not a member of NFPA and I have written proposals. Now getting on the panels may take some pull...

                            You do have to create an account- it is free then you can visit all the proposals etc.

                            Go here---https://www.nfpa.org/codes-and-stand...detail?code=70 choose next addition and then make sense of what is there.
                            They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy
                            She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me
                            I can't help it if I'm lucky

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                              #15
                              210.8 New GFCI requirements.


                              1. Dryer will be required to be GFCI protected
                              2. Range will be required to be GFCI protected
                              3. A/C unit will be required to be GFCI protected
                              4. Electric Furnace if installed in crawl space, garage, or basement and 50 amps or less will be required to be GFCI protected
                              5. Water Heated if installed in crawl space, garage, or basement will be required to be GFCI protected
                              6. Basement receptacles will be required to be GFCI protected (unfinished or finished)


                              210.12 New AFCI Requirements


                              1. All 120 volt 15 and 20 amp circuits in a dwelling unit will be required to be AFCI protected 230.67

                              1. Each Dwelling unit will be required to be protected with Surge Protection 230.85


                              1. Each dwelling unit will be required to have an emergency disconnect on the exterior of dwelling
                              All this is backed up with incidents and statistics of course
                              Ethan Brush - East West Electric. NY, WA. MA

                              "You can't generalize"

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