sandsnow
Senior Member
- Location
- Southern California
Re: 2008 proposal for raceways
Rodger
I'm not scared to make a judgement at all. Do it all the time. This particular case of the EMT nipple between cabinets is something that I agree with. I've approved hundreds.
No, I don't have to have everything listed before I approve it. Some inspectors don't allow tie wire or ty raps to support conduit or cable in walls because it is not listed for it. I always thought that was silly. I will require that circuit breakers be listed and applied accordingly. I have insufficient knowledge to judge that device will be able to interrupt up to 35kaic. I can also judge if a switchboard can be mated with a different manufacturer without getting a UL field follow up inspection.
My point with my previous post was that if people want inspectors to grant a little slack say here in the case of the EMT nipple, then the reverse should be true if something meets code, but the inspector with good judgement, common sense and experience reqiures something above the code.
For me to ask or require something above the code is nowadays few and far between. It has to be something where I have seen a code requirement to be inadequate.
This unfortunately is one of the most abused things by people in my position and I can understand why people jump up and down. I hear about neighboring jurisdictions and some of the things that are required by some inspectors. and yes the electrician often knows more than the inspector. That's really scary because I know the level of knowledge of the electricians in this area.
I rejoice when I find a electrician who has code knowledge. They are few and far between in my world. Open shop or IBEW the lack of Code knoweldge is distressing.
It was amazing to me to see electricians here on this forum who acually knew about derating, or length limits on transformer secondary conductors, or that actually knew how a ground fault trips a circuit breaker, or that an IG ground does not mean a iso ground bus connected to a CW pipe.
I worked as an electrician and know what it's like when the inspector tells you to do something wrong or is not a code requirement.
Rodger
I'm not scared to make a judgement at all. Do it all the time. This particular case of the EMT nipple between cabinets is something that I agree with. I've approved hundreds.
No, I don't have to have everything listed before I approve it. Some inspectors don't allow tie wire or ty raps to support conduit or cable in walls because it is not listed for it. I always thought that was silly. I will require that circuit breakers be listed and applied accordingly. I have insufficient knowledge to judge that device will be able to interrupt up to 35kaic. I can also judge if a switchboard can be mated with a different manufacturer without getting a UL field follow up inspection.
My point with my previous post was that if people want inspectors to grant a little slack say here in the case of the EMT nipple, then the reverse should be true if something meets code, but the inspector with good judgement, common sense and experience reqiures something above the code.
For me to ask or require something above the code is nowadays few and far between. It has to be something where I have seen a code requirement to be inadequate.
This unfortunately is one of the most abused things by people in my position and I can understand why people jump up and down. I hear about neighboring jurisdictions and some of the things that are required by some inspectors. and yes the electrician often knows more than the inspector. That's really scary because I know the level of knowledge of the electricians in this area.
I rejoice when I find a electrician who has code knowledge. They are few and far between in my world. Open shop or IBEW the lack of Code knoweldge is distressing.
It was amazing to me to see electricians here on this forum who acually knew about derating, or length limits on transformer secondary conductors, or that actually knew how a ground fault trips a circuit breaker, or that an IG ground does not mean a iso ground bus connected to a CW pipe.
I worked as an electrician and know what it's like when the inspector tells you to do something wrong or is not a code requirement.
