Arc Flash gloves verses rubber gloves with leather protectors

[rick5280]

I was just browsing the Salisbury catalog and found that they offer Arc Flash gloves, at different calorie values. I have always used 600v rated rubber gloves with leather protectors when needed.

Would the Arc Flash rated gloves be an appropriate substitute when PPE protection is required?

I realize that the rubber gloves (Lineman's gloves) are longer, but when wearing a FR rated coverall the sleeves go all the way to the wrist, so the added length may not be needed.

Has anyone used the Arc Flash gloves offered by Salisbury?

Any other thoughts or concerns about these?

Here is the link to the two type of gloves.

Arc Flash Gloves @ http://www.salisburyonline.com/p-492-salisbury-arc-flash-gloves-40-cal.aspx

Rubber gloves @ http://www.salisburyonline.com/p-619-salisbury-lineman-gloves-class-0-epdm-11-blue.aspx

leather protectors @ http://www.salisburyonline.com/p-58...otector-glove-domestic-cowhide-10-length.aspx

Thanks

Rick Miell

 

[GoldDigger]

I was just browsing the Salisbury catalog and found that they offer Arc Flash gloves, at different calorie values. I have always used 600v rated rubber gloves with leather protectors when needed.

Would the Arc Flash rated gloves be an appropriate substitute when PPE protection is required?

I realize that the rubber gloves (Lineman's gloves) are longer, but when wearing a FR rated coverall the sleeves go all the way to the wrist, so the added length may not be needed.

Has anyone used the Arc Flash gloves offered by Salisbury?

Any other thoughts or concerns about these?

Here is the link to the two type of gloves.

Arc Flash Gloves @ http://www.salisburyonline.com/p-492-salisbury-arc-flash-gloves-40-cal.aspx

Rubber gloves @ http://www.salisburyonline.com/p-619-salisbury-lineman-gloves-class-0-epdm-11-blue.aspx

leather protectors @ http://www.salisburyonline.com/p-58...otector-glove-domestic-cowhide-10-length.aspx

Thanks

Rick Miell

Since there is no rating, I doubt that the Arc Flash Gloves are approved for high voltage work or as protectors over rubber high voltage gloves. Limited usefulness, i.e. only when you do not have to worry about contact, just Arc Flash.

 

[zog]

My concern with arc rated gloves is that most people do not know how to use them properly. Say for instance you have a arc flash label that says 25cal/cm2. What rating is required on the gloves? Well the label is based on a working distance, usually 18". Your hands are likely to be much closer than that so the Ei your hands are exposed to is going to be much higher. Just waiting for the first person to get burns on thier hands because they don't get that point.

 

[Hv&Lv]

I was just browsing the Salisbury catalog and found that they offer Arc Flash gloves, at different calorie values. I have always used 600v rated rubber gloves with leather protectors when needed.

Would the Arc Flash rated gloves be an appropriate substitute when PPE protection is required?

I realize that the rubber gloves (Lineman's gloves) are longer, but when wearing a FR rated coverall the sleeves go all the way to the wrist, so the added length may not be needed.

Has anyone used the Arc Flash gloves offered by Salisbury?

Any other thoughts or concerns about these?

Here is the link to the two type of gloves.

Arc Flash Gloves @ http://www.salisburyonline.com/p-492-salisbury-arc-flash-gloves-40-cal.aspx

Rubber gloves @ http://www.salisburyonline.com/p-619-salisbury-lineman-gloves-class-0-epdm-11-blue.aspx

leather protectors @ http://www.salisburyonline.com/p-58...otector-glove-domestic-cowhide-10-length.aspx

Thanks

Rick Miell

Here is some interesting reading. FWIW, I use a class 2 rubber glove at least weekly, it used to be daily when work was booming...

http://www.ansellpro.com/main/pressRoom_whitePapers_details.asp?rId=144

http://www.lewellyn.com/arc-flash/arc-flash-ppe-requirements-from-2012-nfpa-70e/

 

[Fulthrotl]

I was just browsing the Salisbury catalog and found that they offer Arc Flash gloves, at different calorie values. I have always used 600v rated rubber gloves with leather protectors when needed.

Would the Arc Flash rated gloves be an appropriate substitute when PPE protection is required?

Thanks

Rick Miell

when i bought a 40 cal suit, i asked how do they rate the gloves?
burlington safety said what they provide for 40 cal protection
level is a salisbury 17kv class 2 glove with protectors.
i'm sure it'll provide protection from an atomic detonation, but the
problem is, actually *doing* much of anything while wearing them.

for most stuff other than standing there feeling protected from anything
other than chuck norris, i pretty much use 1 kv gloves with protectors.

40 cal gloves without dielectric value seems a bit pointless to me.
why would i be in something that can dispense 40 cal of flash, unless
i was working on it while energized, unless i was switching, and i don't
do that any more.

 

[GoldDigger]

40 cal gloves without dielectric value seems a bit pointless to me.
why would i be in something that can dispense 40 cal of flash, unless
i was working on it while energized, unless i was switching, and i don't
do that any more.

Well, as you said, you could be operating (not racking) a circuit breaker that carries a 40 cal calculation with the doors closed. Touch safe, and if it blows the doors off and touches you it will no longer be energized.
Lower cal rating flash-only gloves do make sense for many common breaker situations where non-licensed but qualified personnel are just operating breakers and opening the feeder breaker to de-energize would be worse or would interfere with operations.