Kilowatt Buster?

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Only one way to lower the resistance of a wire and that is to bring it to zero kelvins. Of course you would have to do this to the whole wire. Not possible or feasible, and even if it were the energy you use to do that is counter productive.
 
i didnt see a photo but id guess at it being like the power save box. we bought one to take it apart. its just a couple capacitors that fire on the down wave. exact opposite of the incoming cycle. actually causes less resistance from the motor and the motor runs and sounds much better. but the cost is when the motor is not in use. 24 usage awesome, on - off not awesome. not for the residential user
 
Well if nothing else, this has been entertaining. If or when the company actually comes here to conduct (pardon the pun) a test, I will post the results.

The test will be on my 20kva wind turbine system. It produces 360 volts of 3 ph ac, then a controller converts it to 4 dc circuits which go to 4 6 kva inverters and then through isolation xfrmrs and out to the grid.

The test will require their unit to be installed on one of the dc circuits for 30 days. The software on the inverters will be able to tell me if there was any appreciable change in kwh, current, voltage or xfrmr temperature.

Then I can get on with running my business. I know deep down that this is a scam: but I also know that every now & then someone comes up with an idea or product that works.

This will cost me nothing but a little time, which I've got plenty of, so I'll keep y'all posted.
 
If this is a "dishonest scam" I doubt if I could prove it to the satisfaction of a court. I'm not an engineer or scientist so any testimony I could offer in a case like that would be ripped to shreds by even a mediocre attorney.

As mentioned previously, these types of scams have been going on since the dawn of capitalism. Just look up the history of "snake oil". Heck, just watch a few hours of TV and pay close attention to almost any of the commercials. It's all BS. If the claims are made very carefully "save UP TO 10% on your electric bill" then there is little that can be done to stop these products. How do you think Billy Mays stays in business?
 
bkludecke said:
If this is a "dishonest scam" I doubt if I could prove it to the satisfaction of a court. I'm not an engineer or scientist so any testimony I could offer in a case like that would be ripped to shreds by even a mediocre attorney.

As mentioned previously, these types of scams have been going on since the dawn of capitalism. Just look up the history of "snake oil". Heck, just watch a few hours of TV and pay close attention to almost any of the commercials. It's all BS. If the claims are made very carefully "save UP TO 10% on your electric bill" then there is little that can be done to stop these products. How do you think Billy Mays stays in business?
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I understand, but thgese guys are all around and it seems someone should be busting their scams?
 
I agree. But it isn't easy to do. Most of these scams depend heavily on the greed and gullibilty of the consumer. It's truely a case of "buyer beware" most of the time. I wish I had back all the money I have spent over the years on junk that was promoted as something great.

Every year my wife and I go to visit the LA County Fair. We used to go to see all the beautiful livestock etc. Now we go to watch the skilled pitchmen/women perfecting the art of deception and selling mops, cleaners, cookware, you name it, to the hords of greedy, gullible people who are looking for a "deal". Should the sales people all be locked up? There an old saying, "a fool and his money are soon parted".
 
mikeames said:
Crap

Only one way to lower the resistance of a wire and that is to bring it to zero kelvins. Of course you would have to do this to the whole wire. Not possible or feasible, and even if it were the energy you use to do that is counter productive.
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Would'nt the resistance decrease with temperature, that is, any decrease in temperature would result in decreased resistance? Lowering resistance is one thing, manufacturing superconductors is another.

Then, on to impedance. Could you lose at least a very small amount of impedance by lowering the frequency, or maybe(?) inducing a condition of series resonance.

Just questioning some things I don't know much about, not that any of these things are any more fesiable than using super conductors.

Not picking on you in any way. Your statement just seemed very absolute.:smile:
 
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Would'nt the resistance decrease with temperature, that is, any decrease in temperature would result in decreased resistance?
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Yes that exactly what I wrote. Bring it down to zero kelvins (Absolute Zero) and you essentially have zero resistance regardless how long the conductor is. Not pratical. The OP said this "device" lowers the resistance of a conductor which is not possible.

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Then, on to impedance. Could you lose at least a very small amount of impedance by lowering the frequency, or maybe(?) inducing a condition of series resonance.
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Yes the beauty of superconductivity.
 
brian john said:
I understand, but thgese guys are all around and it seems someone should be busting their scams?
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A number of these scams have been and are being "busted" by the FTC, but it takes years for them to investigate, process and litigate the scam. In the mean time, the scammers just declare bankruptcy, then start anew under a different name.

A better method is for people to name names in forums such as this so that savvy consumers who at least do a Google serach will get hits on sites like ours so they can read honest opinions. I have seen this work in the past. I was threatened several times by one company, they never followed through with the threats however, probably because their legal fees would have wiped out too much of their ill-gotten gains.

From the FTC website:
Don't Get Burned
When energy prices rise, so do the number of ads for energy-saving products and services. Some of these ads are for gadgets and gimmicks that can’t deliver big energy savings. Look carefully at the claims and check for independent information about product performance. Don’t fall for unsolicited or high-pressure sales pitches from contractors or door-to-door salespeople. Make sure to ask friends and neighbors for their recommendations. Check out contractors with former customers and the Better Business Bureau. You can also check with the state or local consumer protection office and the state licensing agency (or home improvement commission). If you sign a contract in your home or somewhere other than a company’s permanent place of business, the FTC’s “Cooling-Off Rule” gives you three business days to cancel.
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I had a call last week from an older customer from the past that was getting squeezed by the high cost of heating(wood pellets), and thought he could save money on a 1400 watt Eadenpure heater. Only $350 or so.Watts Is Watts.
 
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