2 clamps on first ground rod

[wlcrotts]

I have been told in level one inspector training and in code classes that the
ground wire from meter to first rod is the grounding electrode conductor and
the wire from first ground rod to second ground rod is a bonding jumper.
so i can use 2 pieces of #6 bare and have 2 clamps on the first rod.
but i have one inspector who will not agree.

 

[raider1]

Welcome to the forum.

You are being taught correct.

The grounding electrode conductor runs to the first electrode. The grounding electrode conductor must be continuous to the first electrode. Then from the first electrode to any other electrodes the wire would be a bonding jumper and not a GEC. You can install 2 ground rod clamps on the first rod and connect the second rod with a second wire, the GEC does not need to be contentious through the first rod to the second rod.

Hope this makes sense.

Chris

 

[roger]

Here is an illustration to go with Chris's post.

Roger

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I have been told in level one inspector training and in code classes that the
ground wire from meter to first rod is the grounding electrode conductor and
the wire from first ground rod to second ground rod is a bonding jumper.
so i can use 2 pieces of #6 bare and have 2 clamps on the first rod.
but i have one inspector who will not agree.

Save yourself a clamp and just loop thru the first clamp to the second one-- no splice, Your way is also code compliant.

 

[eprice]

Section 250.64(F), particularly (1) and (2) is pretty clear on this. I agree with the other responses.

 

[infinity]

Save yourself a clamp and just loop thru the first clamp to the second one-- no splice, Your way is also code compliant.

That's the way we do it.

 

[wlcrotts]

Still having proplems

Still having proplems

Inspector wants verifacation from doi in north carolina
forums expert from doi agrees with inspector

 

[TOOL_5150]

That inspector is off his rocker.

~Matt

 

[480sparky]

That's the way we do it.

X2. Once you get the GEC to the first rod, the next on is only 6-7 feet away. Why not just pull enough GEC to make it to the next rod and save the cost of a clamp?

 

[Sierrasparky]

X2. Once you get the GEC to the first rod, the next on is only 6-7 feet away. Why not just pull enough GEC to make it to the next rod and save the cost of a clamp?

This is the best way I think because there is no splice.

 

[wbalsam1]

............, the GEC does not need to be contentious through the first rod to the second rod............

Chris

I don't think the GEC is being contentious, I think the inspector is!

 

[raider1]

I don't think the GEC is being contentious, I think the inspector is!

LOL

Boy I need to learn to spell.

Chris

 

[cadpoint]

Inspector wants verifacation from doi in north carolina
forums expert from doi agrees with inspector

This is what the NC Board adopted with amendments of 2008, Here.

There is no amendment to 250.56 but there was an amendment 250.50.

 

[wlcrotts]

thanks to everyone who replied the job passed with 2 clamps.

 

[longbeach1125]

good thread, i was just having a convo with someone about this.

 

[infinity]

good thread, i was just having a convo with someone about this.

Even something this simple can get misinterpreted. I've argued a few times with electricians who insisted that the GEC must be unbroken from the first to the second rod. :roll:

 

[daleuger]

Save yourself a clamp and just loop thru the first clamp to the second one-- no splice, Your way is also code compliant.

That's the way I do it too. Not because I thought I had to but save a clamp and make it a little easier. :grin:

 

[partimer31]

Please note, I know this Thread is very old, but I am a new member.

I work in New York State. And I ran into connecting the ground rods
to the Service Panel, that was above and beyond what the previous
posts have shown.

I was require to do a ground rod loop. What this you ask.

I had to take a long piece of #4 stranded copper, connect one end
a the Service Neutral Bus, continue thru two ground rod clamps
and then bring the end of the #4 stranded copper wire back into
the service and connect it back with the Service Neutra Bus.


But before doing the job, I got goods on this area, and they wanted there
Services done.. This was not problem for me. It just shows, don't go by
what the NEC code back saids, alway check with AHJ, when you out of your
normal operating territory.

The inspection went off without one problem noted with my service.

 

[roger]

Did you ask to see this in writing?


Roger

 

[LarryFine]

I had to take a long piece of #4 stranded copper, connect one end
a the Service Neutral Bus, continue thru two ground rod clamps
and then bring the end of the #4 stranded copper wire back into
the service and connect it back with the Service Neutra Bus.

I've done that with two disconnects or panels; never one.