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This may seem crazy,but i was thinking that if you don't have a lighting, rod dissapaysion system that good is it if you have a grounding system that all? Is the transfromer not ground?Am i wasting money?Or am i crazy!
 

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I don't mean to sound rude but you should try reading what you wrote. I am not sure what you are trying to ask.
 

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This may seem crazy,but i was thinking that if you don't have a lighting, rod dissapaysion system that good is it if you have a grounding system that all? Is the transfromer not ground?Am i wasting money?Or am i crazy!

The transformer is not 'ground'.

Other than that, what do you really mean.

Was in Plant City last year. Got some huge strawberries there!
 

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The idea behind a ground rod is to help with lightning strikes. Does it work? Probably not. If the ground rod had very low ohm readings then it may help in some situations.

I have seen housing get hit even with lightning protection systems.

This is why I use a Ufer because it usually will give much better protection than a rod.
 
Ground rods should be called bond rods

Ground rods should be called bond rods

Ground rods have nothing to do with grounding your electrical system. What it does do is bond and equalize the potential in the dirt with your building electrical ground and or building steel. To keep someone from getting shocked.
 

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Ground rods have nothing to do with grounding your electrical system. What it does do is bond and equalize the potential in the dirt with your building electrical ground and or building steel. To keep someone from getting shocked.
I used to think so, too, but it turns out that the earth isn't of low-enough impedance to have that effect.
 

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I guess it's just Fluff...

In the Search engine page, I linked, is an article describing about how 100 days of thunder
storms come through a year in blamie, Florida!
IE In the story of a government radio control center fortified or lighting srikes!

Worked with a Man who got hit, then went through clients sliding door and
now is slowly loosing his teeth, one of the true after effects of a strike!

Read up on Ben's Franklin invention of the Lighting Rod... As I recall, someone figured out
the rod develops an umbrella coverage, not that you don't need to get and stay out of a passing shower...

Its hardly just Fluff.
 
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glene77is

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...In the Search engine page, I linked, ...

... the rod develops an umbrella coverage, ...

Its hardly just Fluff.

Cadpoint,
I don't see the link in your posting. Maybe next time. I'd like to read it.

But, FedEx has a terminal here in Memphis, and twice daily parks 137 planes
of the Douglas MD11 type (big cargo haulers).

Between each plane,
there is a Lightning Rod shaped like an Umbrella, each about 100' tall,
to allow dissapation of static into the air.

This effectively raises the ground to the height of 100' aprox.
At least, that's the best explanation I've ever come across.
It is supposed to reduce lightning strikes,
and absorb those that get through directly in the tarmac Ufer.

In 2001,
I saw lightning hit our building with a roof full of rods,
sending a slight charge through the building, through the steel frame,
into a printer on the top floor,
and eventually passing through the printer port of 3 servers in IT.
We had TVSS on the power lines at the servers,
not the peripheral lines out the back.

For all the effort, loss of 3 out of 7 servers
cost us 250 thousand dollars a day in paper losses,
until the servers were replaced and uploaded.
Nobody was injured, however.

With lightning power,
you just take precautions and keep moving on.
In school, we once figured a typical diameter of lightning bolt,
typical voltage, typical current flow,
typical multi-strike (oscillating) count on bolts,
and none of it was pretty.
 
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