WR and 406.8

[ivsenroute]

How many of you are installing WR rated receptacles in these areas?

I have noticed several GFCI manufacturers now have sticker on their receptacle stating that the receptacle is not to be used in damp locations.

What is the cost difference for those who are compliant?

 

[Buck Parrish]

Yes, we have to here...$4 - $6 more then a tr gfci.

 

[ty]

Yes, we install them. A few bucks more than standard TR GFCI.

 

[augie47]

TN exempted that requirement in adopting the '08.

 

[ivsenroute]

Don't know why TN would exempt that requirement. I test a lot of existing GFCI receptacles and have a very high failure rate.

Some trip with self test but not a GFCI tester (if they fail I try another tester to confirm)

Some don't trip with self or GFCI tester.

UL tested a bunch of the failed ones and found that corrosion was the #1 reason for the failures.

 

[augie47]

I wass told (can't verify) that at the time they were discussing the adoption of '08 there was not a WR GFCI readily avaialble.

 

[ty]

I will say that I would much rather have the GFCI located inside, which is our sop, but there are those times...

 

[TOOL_5150]

In CA we are still going by the 2005, but I install WR devices outside now.

~Matt

 

[roger]

Some trip with self test but not a GFCI tester (if they fail I try another tester to confirm)

Why would you care if a "GFCI tester" tripped the unit or not, the only approved method is the onboard test switch.

Roger

 

[electricmanscott]

How many of you are installing WR rated receptacles in these areas?

I have noticed several GFCI manufacturers now have sticker on their receptacle stating that the receptacle is not to be used in damp locations.

What is the cost difference for those who are compliant?

The answer should be everybody that is under 2008 NEC

 

[A-1Sparky]

Are WR GFCIs rated for in-use in wet locations w/o an in-use cover?

 

[electricmanscott]

Are WR GFCIs rated for in-use in wet locations w/o an in-use cover?

It wouldn't matter but I can't imagine they would be. The NEC requires an in use cover in wet locations regardless.

 

[A-1Sparky]

So then, what's the benefit in having a WR GFCI?

 

[roger]

So then, what's the benefit in having a WR GFCI?

Money.

Roger

 

[A-1Sparky]

It's good to know that the CMP's main concern is money, I mean, safety.

 

[raider1]

Apparently the WR rated receptacles are constructed with a more UV resistant material then the standard devices.

Chris

 

[A-1Sparky]

Yeah, and they are made of corrosion-resistant materials. But if a regular GFCI is properly protected (from the elements), you shouldn't have to worry about UV rays or corrosion.

 

[480sparky]

........ But if a regular GFCI is properly protected (from the elements), you shouldn't have to worry about UV rays or corrosion.

And that's part of the problem. I lost count of how many bell boxes I've opened with water standing in them.

 

[mivey]

And that's part of the problem. I lost count of how many bell boxes I've opened with water standing in them.

So they are good for under water apps?

 

[480sparky]

So they are good for under water apps?

No. They are still above grade, but always seem to have water in them.