Bonding neutral to ground

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SeanD

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I have a customer who wants us to install a Solar system for him. I have attached photos of his service and distribution panel.

The Service panel is outside. The distribution panel is on the back wall of the garage. This doesn't meet 2005 NEC 250.24.

Was this ever legal under previous code cycles to bond the neutral to ground in a distribution panel separate from the service? This house is about 40 years old.

This is mostly for my own curiosity, we will be recommending changing out the distribution panel to separate the grounds and the neutrals because there are other NEC issues.

Yes, the service is grounded. It is in the utility side of the service panel.
 
If the garage was detached at one time, and a few other conditions are met, this could be a legal install. But I doubt it, this was probably never legal. However, it does not have to be replaced completely to remedy the problem, but I would have recommended the same thing you did.
 
Ok, in pic one I see an example of why those GE panels are almost as bad as FPE or Zinsco, with the overcrowding and lack of good wire bend space..what a horror show. Sloppy job on stripping and stuffing that left-hand main lug.

And what is up with the single strand of wire with white insulation hanging under the neutral lug in the main breaker pic?
 
mxslick said:
what a horror show.
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My boss pretty much said the same thing when I asked his opinion. I jokingly asked him if we could just install a buss bar and separate the grounds from the neutrals. He was not amused.

The issue with this panel is that all the hack job adds have made such a mess it is no longer salvageable. I wish I could upload a wide shot so you can see the mess of conduits coming in from the top. Oh well, time to rip it out and start over.
 
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