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hardworkingstiff

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I sent this to the AHJ, and I thought I would put it out here to see what comments I might get.
Jimmy,

Please find 2 PDF files attached. This is a job I'm bidding (without engineered drawings at this time) and I'd like to see if you agree or disagree with my understanding of the NEC.

All but 4 of the pedestals will have (2) 30-amp receptacles with circuit breakers in the pedestals. The 4 single loaded pedestals are the ones for the slips nearest the bulkhead on circuits A1 and B1 (see drawing). Each pedestal will have a KWH meter for the individual slip so we will be taking a 10% reduction in feeder calculations per 555.12 note 2.

The circuit that I specifically would like you to comment on is circuit B2. This circuit consists of 4 pedestal each with (2) 30-amp receptacles and individual KWH meters for the slips. The 30-amp receptacles are 120-volts and the feeder is a MWBC consisting of A-phase, B-phase, N, and Gnd from a single-phase 120/240-volt service. In each pedestal, the (2) 30-amps circuits are wired to opposite phases of the feeder. Each phase of the MWBC (from the 1st pedestal in the circuit to the panel) will have a calculated load of 30*4 = 120-amps * 90% (for meter) = 108-amps per phase. 110.14(C) requires us to use table 310.16 for the ampacities at our termination. Table 310.16 lists a #2 copper wire at 75c (our equipment terminations have a minimum of a 75c rating) as having an ampacity of 115-amps. We are thereby OK with this installation at this point.

Here is where I need to know I am understanding the code correctly. The load calculation after the 1st pedestal becomes 30*3 = 90-amps * 90% (for meter) = 81-amps per phase. A #4 copper conductor in table 310.16 has a 75c rating of 85-amps which is greater than the 81-amp load calculation, so use of a #4 type W cable will be in compliance with 110.14(C). Table 400.5(B) has a 75c rating for a #4 W cable of 115-amps (column E) so it is adequately protected by the 110-amp breaker.

Please let me know if you see a fallacy in my thinking.
He called back before I got this posted and said that I couldn't do what I wanted to because I had to protect the feeder at the Table 310-16 ampacity. Can anyone give me a code section that might support being able to drop the feeder size after the 1st pedestal, or is that just bad engineering?
 
I am not going for code sec at this time. Once you fuse your feeder be it 100 amp or 300 etc You have sized OCPD based on your wires allowable ampacity. If you reduce the size of the wire downstream you must protect at the reduced ampacity. ie you are fused for 200 amp and you put #8 in the circuit. Now you have 200 amp fuse on 40 amp wire.:D
 
I am not going for code sec at this time. Once you fuse your feeder be it 100 amp or 300 etc You have sized OCPD based on your wires allowable ampacity. If you reduce the size of the wire downstream you must protect at the reduced ampacity. ie you are fused for 200 amp and you put #8 in the circuit. Now you have 200 amp fuse on 40 amp wire.:D

I understand. In the example, the #4 type W is allowed to have OCP of 115-amps and would be protected at 110-amps. The issue as I see it all about the termination.
 
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