Vandalized

[Esthy]

This house was vandalized, glad that I can install a j-box and bring the wires again to the sub-panel. I am checking because apparentely they cut the wires at each receptacle, but is this is the case I can raise them 8" from the original installation. The customers aked if I can pig tail the Arc fault breakers - they left about 1" 1/2 to 2" of the neutral conductor on each breaker, I am not confortable doing so, but I don't see any problem with that ... Does anyone?

 

[TOOL_5150]

People are so stupid. Is this your job that was vandalized? I see no issue with pigtailing longer wires onto the AFCI breakers, as long as there is enough to do so.

~Matt

 

[ericsherman37]

Here in Oregon we have a new law that requires a certificate of some sort in order to haul/transport scrap metal. I don't know many details other than that, but I'm hesitant to take my pile of rabbit in the garage to the scrap yard for fear of getting a ticket.

And for that matter, do the pieces of Romex I have tying my ladder down to the work van count as scrap copper? What about the half-used roll of MC cable stuffed into a corner?

 

[ericsherman37]

Here's a PDF of the certificate required to transport scrap metal in Oregon:

http://www.oregon.gov/OSP/docs/MTC_03112010.pdf

Seems pretty easy to just fill in fake information. The new law just went into effect this year, so it's probably too early to tell if it will actually work or not.

 

[480sparky]

People are so stupid........

They took $20 worth of scrap copper and left $100 worth of breakers.

 

[TOOL_5150]

They took $20 worth of scrap copper and left $100 worth of breakers.

Exactly my thoughts. Crappy vandals.

~Matt

 

[480sparky]

Exactly my thoughts. Crappy vandals.

~Matt

It would be cheaper if they just took the breakers.

 

[RETRAINDAILY]

here in AZ too scrap wire you have to give finger print

if over $300 they mail you a check


or striped you have to Give your tax payer id #

 

[e57]

Disgruntled employee? Ticked off someone at the job? Homeowner tick someone off?

Whomever did this got access to the house and had a mission - apparently not motivated by theft. And was obviously comfortable enough to chop into wiring at a panel and its feeder. If this were solely theft - they made enough noise cracking the rock to go much further with it.

As for splicing - not a problem unless the space at the panel is impinged.

 

[masterinbama]

The scrap yard I deal with made me register with them. Just business name address and tax number. But as an upside to that I get an Email from him when prices change or even when he sees an upswing coming. I made $600 2 weeks ago by waiting 2 days to sell my scrap.