Arc Fault Breakers

[wmeek]

In the 2008 Edition of the code it says all 15A and 20A single phase branch ckts supplying outlets shall have an arc fault breaker. I was wanting to know if an appliance circuit in the kitchen was included in Atricle 210.12B. It does not have kitchen or Bath in the article.

Thanks

 

[qcroanoke]

In the 2008 Edition of the code it says all 15A and 20A single phase branch ckts supplying outlets shall have an arc fault breaker. I was wanting to know if an appliance circuit in the kitchen was included in Atricle 210.12B. It does not have kitchen or Bath in the article.

Thanks

Article 100 Definitions:
Outlet: A point on the wiring system at which current is taken to supply utilization equipment.

IMO yes, the SABC need to be on AFCI.

 

[charlie b]

It names specific rooms. Rooms not on that list (including kitchens and baths) do not require AFCI.

 

[macmikeman]

Article 100 Definitions:
Outlet: A point on the wiring system at which current is taken to supply utilization equipment.

IMO yes, the SABC need to be on AFCI.

NEC 210.12 (B) Kitchens not included in the list of areas requiring arc fault protection

 

[qcroanoke]

NEC 210.12 (B) Kitchens not included in the list of areas requiring arc fault protection

I should have read the code section, Eh?
My bad...

 

[augie47]

I should have read the code section, Eh?
My bad...

It's more fun to post 1st :grin:

 

[fireryan]

Article 100 Definitions:
Outlet: A point on the wiring system at which current is taken to supply utilization equipment.

So this means that lighting circuits are to be on afci to?

 

[Rewire]

I always wait till someone posts the right answer and then i post it just in a different way.

 

[qcroanoke]

Article 100 Definitions:
Outlet: A point on the wiring system at which current is taken to supply utilization equipment.

So this means that lighting circuits are to be on afci to?

If they are in the rooms mentioned in 210.12 b Yes.
even the smoke detectors.

 

[fireryan]

Wow. I didnt realize even the smokes had to be on a afci

 

[Rewire]

If they are in the rooms mentioned in 210.12 b Yes.
even the smoke detectors.

I remember in 05 when bedrooms had the requirement many pamplets had 'receptacle'outlets and the code stated 'outlets'

 

[hurk27]

Check with your state or local requirements, a few states like Indiana have removed 210.12 from the their code.

 

[wmeek]

Thanks for all the replys. I just wanted to see what others had to say about this

 

[WinZip]

Question if anyone cares to answer.

Replacing an old 200 amp panel with new 200 amp panel have you been forced to bring interior of home up to code ( re: arc fault breakers ) in listed areas.

 

[LarryFine]

Question if anyone cares to answer.

Replacing an old 200 amp panel with new 200 amp panel have you been forced to bring interior of home up to code ( re: arc fault breakers ) in listed areas.

I care. Nope.

 

[ceb58]

Article 100 Definitions:
Outlet: A point on the wiring system at which current is taken to supply utilization equipment.

So this means that lighting circuits are to be on afci to?

If it is in the kitchen and the circ. doesn't leave the kitchen then no AFCI.
Just a kinda rule of thumb for the 2008 if it is not GFCI'ed then it will be AFCI'ed. There are places that are not specified such as a kitchen as not covered under the AFCI rule But when wireing it is more convenient and cost wise to catch that area on a circ. that will be AFCI'ed instead of pulling a new home run to cover a small area.