Residential theoretical ? about "outlet"

[Dweeber]

All,

My question is in Article 100, the definition of "outlet". Is a blank-face GFCI with and L.E.D. indicator on it an outlet?

My search of older threads gave me too many results, and most of them I didn't fully get.

Thanks in advance,

D.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

A blank faced gfci is basically a switch. A switch is not an outlet

 

[480sparky]

I would say, technically, the LED is an outlet.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I would say, technically, the LED is an outlet.

Technically, you're nuts. :grin: Unfortunately you are also right but I can't imagine someone hitting on that-- cept Ken.

 

[480sparky]

Technically, you're nuts. :grin:

No, I'm certifiably nuts.:roll:

Unfortunately you are also right but I can't imagine someone hitting on that-- cept Ken.

Bob would have, but he's elsewhere trying to boost his post count.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

bob would have, but he's elsewhere trying to boost his post count.

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[don_resqcapt19]

I think it is a real stretch to say that the LED indicator is "utilization equipment".

 

[charlie b]

I would say, technically, the LED is an outlet.

I would say instead that the presence of the LED is what turns the outlet box into an outlet. The LED itself is just a load. Indeed, if I were to try to be technical, I would say that the point at which the wires (having entered the box from the conduit) are screwed onto the GFCI/LED device is the "outlet." :roll:

 

[charlie b]

I think it is a real stretch to say that the LED indicator is "utilization equipment".

Agreed. But I would be willing to grant that stretch, before I grant the notion that the switch itself comprises an "outlet."

 

[480sparky]

I think it is a real stretch to say that the LED indicator is "utilization equipment".

It's equipment, and it utilizes electrons to function..........

 

[Speedskater]

So a switch is not an outlet, but a lighted switch is?

 

[480sparky]

So a switch is not an outlet, but a lighted switch is?

It fits the NEC definition of an outlet.

 

[iwire]

It fits the NEC definition of an outlet.

I agree with 480.

 

[acrwc10]

So does that make a fuse with an led indicator light "an outlet" ?

 

[LarryFine]

Well, technically, the box becomes the outlet because of the device installed in it, not the device itself.

 

[chris kennedy]

It fits the NEC definition of an outlet.

I agree with 480.

Agreed.....

 

[don_resqcapt19]

I still don't see the indicator LED as making this anything more than a switch or a controller and do not see this point on the wiring system as an outlet.

 

[Dweeber]

Thanks to all that have replied. I was along the lines of thinking that it is a very minute detail, the L.E.D. utilizing electricity.

Believe it or not, I appreciate the excruciating exactness of critical thinking.

D.

 

[charlie b]

Believe it or not, I appreciate the excruciating exactness of critical thinking.

You will get more of that than you bargain for, if you stay around here too long. :grin: