vfd wiring question?

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viator_j

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I am having to run 1/0 oflex vfd cable to a 75hp motor 400ft away from Reliance drive. The motor has #2 wire for termination. The pot head is tight to terminate the 1/0 cable. I would like to transition to the #2 in a box 10ft away. Does anyone see a problem with using single pole power distribution blocks for each conductor and grounds and bond the shield as well?
 

beanland

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Seems Reasonable

Seems Reasonable

No reason you cannot termiante the larger cable and transition to a smaller cable for the final connection. As always conductor rating must be appropriate and equipment grounding conductor must be up-sized for upsized phase conductors.

I would be concerned about the voltages that can be developed at the motor due to non-sinusoidal voltages/currents being present on such a long line. Check with the VFD maker to see if a reactor is needed at some point.
 

Jraef

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We do have a line reactor on the drive input>Thanks
But to beanland's point, that isn't going to help, I think he meant a load reactor.

Has anyone evaluated the viability of using only the VFD rated cables at this distance? Using properly shielded cables helps a lot and some VFDs claim you can do this without added load reactors or filters, but some do not. It should be addressed and acknowledged because the consequence of not doing it right is to lose the motor (and all the associated down time).
 

viator_j

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vfd wiring question?

An engineering firm sized the 1/0 VFD cable for this 75hp motor and distance using the existing Reliance GE3000 drive. I am wanting to splice the 1/0 to a #2 vfd cable so I can terminate in the motor head. And wondering others comments on this?
 

Jraef

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An engineering firm sized the 1/0 VFD cable for this 75hp motor and distance using the existing Reliance GE3000 drive. I am wanting to splice the 1/0 to a #2 vfd cable so I can terminate in the motor head. And wondering others comments on this?
The only problem I ever have with that is the added point of failure. Just be EXTRA meticulous about the connections, should be fine. If you think about it, you are doing the same thing inside the pecker head anyway.
 

Cow

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Why would you add a splice box in the middle of a run plus all the labor, splices, material, etc when it's usually just easier to pull the peckerhead off and replace it with a larger j-box?

Get yourself a good gasketed box, pop holes in the back for the mounting bolts, punch out a big hole for the motor leads to come through, add a ground lug and you're on your way.
 

Jraef

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Why would you add a splice box in the middle of a run plus all the labor, splices, material, etc when it's usually just easier to pull the peckerhead off and replace it with a larger j-box?

Get yourself a good gasketed box, pop holes in the back for the mounting bolts, punch out a big hole for the motor leads to come through, add a ground lug and you're on your way.
Even better, but that's assuming there is room for the larger connection box where the motor is mounted.
 

JMPE

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Standing Wave Voltages

Standing Wave Voltages

The engineer of record should also be aware of possible increased voltage levels (at 400') that could exceed the feeder and motor winding insulation due to pulse width modulated power wave at the output of the drive. The assumption is that your 75hp motor is existing and runs on 3phase 480V and the drive's output signal is pulse width modulated. I realize this does not address the original wiring question but brings to mind a situation we've been through in which we ended up specifying otput filters to mitigate exceeding the 1000V insulation thresholds of the cable and windings.
 

viator_j

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Correct Jaref,
We are not able to increase pot head size or conduit going to motor due to valuble reality space. That is why I am asking comments on the splice box.
Thanks
 
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