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[kentriolinda]

I just got a rough inspection on a detached garage with a 100 amp sub and the insp. said that I could not put the access cover on the inside of the garage and I can not find a spacific code ref. on this. can anyone steer me in the right dir. if this is true.

 

[chris kennedy]

Access cover on what?

 

[kentriolinda]

access cover for connection to uffer at foundation wall

 

[chris kennedy]

access cover for connection to uffer at foundation wall

I see, you stub rebar up above the footer and make a connection there. This will open up the argument as to whether or not the rebar is a GEC or a GE.

 

[kentriolinda]

yes that is what I am dealing with. but my question is weather or not it has to be accessable from only the outside?

 

[Dennis Alwon]

yes that is what I am dealing with. but my question is weather or not it has to be accessable from only the outside?

I believe it would have to be accessible. It does not matter from where. A gec to a water pipe in a basement isn't accessible from the outside. ?

 

[curt swartz]

Ask the inspector why the access needs to be on the exterior. I always put the access inside if possible. There is no reason to put any extra holes in the exterior that water may enter.

 

[zbang]

yes that is what I am dealing with. but my question is weather or not it has to be accessable from only the outside?

from Article 100-
Accessible (as applied to wiring methods). Capable of being removed or exposed without damaging the building structure or finish or not permanently closed in by the structure or finish of the building.

I don't see anything in 250.68 that suggests inside/outside only, just that it is accessible. It sounds like you can put as many removable access covers on as you want.

 

[kentriolinda]

I plan to ask him in the morn. That is the reason I put it on the inside. thank you all for your input I will let you know what he say's.

 

[infinity]

Why not just bury the connection in the concrete?

 

[John120/240]

It would have been a option if he got there before the concrete was poured.

Since he didn't, that is why he is here.

 

[kentriolinda]

then what happens to connection accessability if its buried in the concrete? would that not be a violation of 250.68

 

[infinity]

then what happens to connection accessability if its buried in the concrete? would that not be a violation of 250.68

It's not required to be accessible:

250.68 Grounding Electrode Conductor and Bonding Jumper Connection to Grounding Electrodes.
The connection of a grounding electrode conductor at the service, at each building or structure where supplied by a feeder(s) or branch circuit(s), or at a separately derived system and associated bonding jumper(s) shall be made as specified 250.68(A) and (B).
(A) Accessibility. All mechanical elements used to terminate a grounding electrode conductor or bonding jumper to a grounding electrode shall be accessible.
Exception No. 1: An encased or buried connection to a concrete-encased, driven, or buried grounding electrode shall not be required to be accessible.
Exception No. 2: Exothermic or irreversible compression connections used at terminations, together with the mechanical means used to attach such terminations to fireproofed structural metal whether or not the mechanical means is reversible, shall not be required to be accessible.

 

[volt101]

Exception No. 1: An encased or buried connection to a concrete-encased, driven, or buried grounding electrode shall not be required to be accessible

It is buried...In sheetrock....

 

[kwired]

Encase the existing conection in concrete. It then no longer needs to be accessible.

 

[kentriolinda]

if I was to encase it in concrete would the connection need to be inspected first?

 

[ActionDave]

Best to call the inspector and ask.

 

[infinity]

if I was to encase it in concrete would the connection need to be inspected first?

Around here, yes. The connection is inspected during the footing inspection usually by the building inspector.

 

[volt101]

Around here, yes. The connection is inspected during the footing inspection usually by the building inspector.

Ditto

 

[jwelectric]

if I was to encase it in concrete would the connection need to be inspected first?

yes along with the inspection of the electrode