Dishwasher disconnect options

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Ha, ha.
Reminds me of a job where the foreman was panicking because the inspector failed him because some switches (couple hundred) above the ceiling were decora switches(so they didn't show an off/on position).
He was terrified having to replace couple hundred switches.
Gave him a magic marker and told him to write "ON" on top and "OFF" on bottom.
Inspection passed.


iwire said:
My printing is as good as my spelling, that would be one ugly switch. :p
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iwire said:
Not only must it be listed for cord and plug connection you can only use the model number cord called out for in the instructions, you cannot use a generic appliance cord nor can you make your own.

Don't shoot me, I am just the messenger.
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this is true, but you have to agree that it is plain stupid.
 
iwire said:
Not only must it be listed for cord and plug connection you can only use the model number cord called out for in the instructions, you cannot use a generic appliance cord nor can you make your own.

Don't shoot me, I am just the messenger.
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I once sat all day in a UL office researching this with a UL engineer. I was not happy when we both came to this same conclusion. I have been failed on more than one inspection for having a generic cord installed since only one is listed for the purpose.

http://www.homedepot.com/buy/kitchen/disposers-accessories/insinkerator/power-cord-accessory-kit-28509.html
 
iwire said:
Not only must it be listed for cord and plug connection you can only use the model number cord called out for in the instructions, you cannot use a generic appliance cord nor can you make your own.

Don't shoot me, I am just the messenger.
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Not shooting the messenger Bob, but that's assinine.

Fortunately, I've not had an inspector pull that one on me. Would you say it applies to garbage disposal's as well?

Standard practice here is split receptacle with 14/3 and DP 15amp breaker, and cords for both DW & GD.
 
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electricguy61 said:
Not shooting the messenger Bob, but that's assinine.

Fortunately, I've not had an inspector pull that one on me. Would you say it applies to garbage disposal's as well?

Standard practice here is split receptacle with 14/3 and DP 15amp breaker, and cords for both DW & GD.
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Yes, it applies to disposals as well as dishwashers.

Check out 422.16(B)(1).

The cord must be identified as suitable for the purpose in the installation instructions of the appliance manufacture.

Chris
 
electricguy61 said:
Not shooting the messenger Bob, but that's assinine.

Fortunately, I've not had an inspector pull that one on me. Would you say it applies to garbage disposal's as well?

Standard practice here is split receptacle with 14/3 and DP 15amp breaker, and cords for both DW & GD.
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422.16(B) Specific Appliances.
(1) Electrically Operated Kitchen Waste Disposers. Electrically
operated kitchen waste disposers shall be permitted
to be cord-and-plug-connected with a flexible cord identified
as suitable for the purpose in the installation instructions
of the appliance manufacturer, where all of the following
conditions are met:
 
iwire said:
Not only must it be listed for cord and plug connection you can only use the model number cord called out for in the instructions, you cannot use a generic appliance cord nor can you make your own.
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I agree.

Don't shoot me, I am just the messenger.
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But, I gotta.:p

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jumper said:
If listed for such, I would say yes- but all the ones I have done specify their cord at twice the price.

They probably buy generic and re-brand them.:rant:
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I can almost guarantee that they buy generic and re-package them and sell them as an accessory kit. They are in the business to sell products, it makes no sense on their part to let you use any old generic cord when they can sell one of theirs at an increased price.;):)

Chris
 
Regarding the cord issue ....

LOOK at the back of a dishwasher or range. Or, for that matter, the wiring box of a water heater. For whatever reason, these guys don't give you much room. I've tried mounting 'proper' cable grips on some things where there wasn't room for the fitting- let alone any wires passing through it.

Where a cord grip of some sort is provided (ranges), it's not the usual stout item ... but some cheesy bit of sheet metal kludge.

My point is that this stuff gets evaluated using the stuff the maker provides ... and there's a very real chance that it's so finely engineered that it won't work right with anything else. Flat cord vs. round cord, etc. Unnatural sized openings. Etc.
 
iwire said:
How about a single pole switch above the counter? I have lived in homes with that.

But Decora switches do not qualify as they are not indicating.
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Thanks Bob. I thought about that, but I wasn't sure how many people install them above the counter instead of under the sink. I label the switch for its purpose under the sink, but over the sink it will get painted or the label will come off over time anyway.
 
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