Elevator lighting

[the blur]

I service an elevator, with 3) T12 single flouresent pans. 48" lamps. So there are 3 ballast, and 3 lamps, that burn 24/7. It was done for redundancy back in 1980's. Now that we are looking for energy savings.... what can I legally do inside an elevator ?

It's an office building, which is not used weekends, or after 5pm. But these lights are always burning. Is it legal to put a motion sensor in an elevator ? Do I need 3 ballast, and 3 lamps ? Certainly 2 T8's would light the elevator. What can I do ??

 

[iwire]

In my state they would hang me if I touch anything past the disconnect switches.

I was once at an office building while a carpet guy was putting a new rug in an elevator. Along comes the elevator guy and he has a conniption, threatened to call everyone but the Governor of the state for this carpet guy doing this work without an elevator guy on site.

 

[the blur]

Typical union non-sense.
Back to the question... I can't find a code reference to elevator lighting, but there must be some form of reduncancy required....

 

[WIMaster]

Your best bet would be to check the elevator codes for your state.

I highly doubt that anything less than 24/7 would be allowed in WI. As they do require X # of foot candles at the floor in the elevator lobby 24/7 in Mil. WI. from my personal experience with a customer that did not want the lights on 24/7 and an elevator inspector that said too bad. :happysad:

 

[hillbilly1]

I would look at more efficient lighting, the reason for three separate fixtures is redundancy, a single fixture or lamp going out would reduce light output, but not put the cab in total darkness. Perhaps changing to led replacement tubes would be the answer, but I would run it by the elevator inspector first.

 

[TNBaer]

Three new T8 ballasts. But two of the fixtures on occ sensors. The third fixture will burn 24/7.

 

[roger]

See ANSI 17.1 (I think) for elevator codes. I agree with Bob, I wouldn't touch anything that is actually elevator equipment including lighting.

Roger

 

[steve66]

I don't think saving one or two lamps is going to be worth the effort even if they do burn 24/7.

Now if you had 500 elevators, it might be worth thinking about.

 

[hillbilly1]

I don't think saving one or two lamps is going to be worth the effort even if they do burn 24/7.

Now if you had 500 elevators, it might be worth thinking about.

I agree, there is usually a six lamp minimum to justify the cost of the occ sensor install.

 

[iwire]

I would not be surprised if the stand by power used by the elevator controls exceeded the power used by the lamps. Having elevators is expensive.