Burndy range taking dies?

[Fulthrotl]

ok.... i got a little burndy hypress that takes these dies....
the Y500CT-HS

this die fits it......

WDA8300:
#8-300 Al
#6-400 Cu STR.
#2-4/0 Cu FLEX
UL and CSA for use on YA, YS, YA-A, and
YS-A series. Also for use on
YAV and YSV series.

i'm assuming that "range taking" dies means this single
die will handle all the above wire sizes and types.

i'm looking at the die sets, and we all know how proud
burndy is of their products. so what i'm wondering is,
have any of you guys used one of these "range taking"
dies, and how well does it work?

all i've ever used is the dieless 4 point hypress, and
the hypress that comes with a full set of 16 or so dies
for each individual wire size.

any experience with this would be helpful... thanks....

 

[Hv&Lv]

ok.... i got a little burndy hypress that takes these dies....
the Y500CT-HS

this die fits it......

WDA8300:
#8-300 Al
#6-400 Cu STR.
#2-4/0 Cu FLEX
UL and CSA for use on YA, YS, YA-A, and
YS-A series. Also for use on
YAV and YSV series.

i'm assuming that "range taking" dies means this single
die will handle all the above wire sizes and types.

i'm looking at the die sets, and we all know how proud
burndy is of their products. so what i'm wondering is,
have any of you guys used one of these "range taking"
dies, and how well does it work?

all i've ever used is the dieless 4 point hypress, and
the hypress that comes with a full set of 16 or so dies
for each individual wire size.

any experience with this would be helpful... thanks....

You may already have this. If not, see if this helps. Look at the charts, here is the way to use the nest and indenter setupe for all different sizes. (not solid)
If you don't have it, it would be helpful to print and laminate it, keep it in the box.:thumbsup:

http://ecat.burndy.com/Comergent//burndy/drawing/211040.pdf

 

[Fulthrotl]

You may already have this. If not, see if this helps. Look at the charts, here is the way to use the nest and indenter setupe for all different sizes. (not solid)
If you don't have it, it would be helpful to print and laminate it, keep it in the box.:thumbsup:

http://ecat.burndy.com/Comergent//burndy/drawing/211040.pdf

you are awesome. i'm gonna name my next illegitimate child in your honor.
my original post indicated i didn't have a clue. now, i have a clue, and a map.... thanks again.

the hypress lists for about $1,400, and can be found on the net, and at mayday grounding for
about $1,100....

found it NIB on ebay for $550..... and there are bunches of people with burndy lugs for sale on ebay
at a third of what they are at the wholesale house... mostly need #6, #2, 2/0, 4/0, and 500 mcm.

but a full set of dies would be pricy... just wondering if it makes a good looking crimp or squishes
it all ugly.....

 

[Hv&Lv]

you are awesome. i'm gonna name my next illegitimate child in your honor.
my original post indicated i didn't have a clue. now, i have a clue, and a map.... thanks again.

the hypress lists for about $1,400, and can be found on the net, and at mayday grounding for
about $1,100....

found it NIB on ebay for $550..... and there are bunches of people with burndy lugs for sale on ebay
at a third of what they are at the wholesale house... mostly need #6, #2, 2/0, 4/0, and 500 mcm.

but a full set of dies would be pricy... just wondering if it makes a good looking crimp or squishes
it all ugly.....

We used to use them all the time. Saved carrying different tooling around. It makes a nice crimp, actually looks neater than the burndy specialty dies. The specialty dies will compress the entire crimp, giving more surface area tightly in contact with the conductor and the crimp.

occasionally (only seen one) there will be an instance where the amperage gets high enough for the crimp to heat up beyond what one would consider acceptable.

Thanks for the honor... If I run into a kid named hivuluv I'll wonder...

 

[Leestarkweather]

Any Chance you are building the Time Warner Hub Upgrade in Huntington Beach?

Any Chance you are building the Time Warner Hub Upgrade in Huntington Beach?

Sounds like exactly the sizes of wires I'm getting close to installing at the new Time Warner Cable hub site in Granada Hills.

If so , I'd like to chat with you about how the HB project is going. Thanks, Lee

 

[Fulthrotl]

Sounds like exactly the sizes of wires I'm getting close to installing at the new Time Warner Cable hub site in Granada Hills.

If so , I'd like to chat with you about how the HB project is going. Thanks, Lee

PM sent.

 

[Fulthrotl]

We used to use them all the time. Saved carrying different tooling around. It makes a nice crimp, actually looks neater than the burndy specialty dies. The specialty dies will compress the entire crimp, giving more surface area tightly in contact with the conductor and the crimp.

occasionally (only seen one) there will be an instance where the amperage gets high enough for the crimp to heat up beyond what one would consider acceptable.

Thanks for the honor... If I run into a kid named hivuluv I'll wonder...

well, right now, i'm in crimp hell. the little crimp die we were discussing can only be found as
part of a set.... so i'm looking at the set, and trying to figure out which size wires it will
crimp.... i've got specifications on two jobs that i need hypress lugs above AWG#8, and the
die has to have the right witness number on it, so the inspector can feel warm and fuzzy.

the problem is with generic lugs. burndy lugs have the witness number on them, so a number
6 stranded one hole lug will use the die with 7 on the crimp face. it's marked on the lug.

anyway, i'm looking at this kit with with 12 die sets, and i am asking myself what wire sizes
can i crimp with this wonderful piece of bank account emptying metal... and it's not an easy
answer it seems....

the witness marks are 7,8,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,18,20, and the WDC one size fits all......
the die marks are different than what burndy has in it's catalog....

so a 500 mcm copper in the catalog calls for either a W34VT, or a W34CRT, and the die
in my magic box is W34RT, with an emboss number of 20.

20=34=500mcm... simple? of course........

is there anything anywhere that gives a cross reference for all this crap?

 

[Hv&Lv]

well, right now, i'm in crimp hell. the little crimp die we were discussing can only be found as
part of a set.... so i'm looking at the set, and trying to figure out which size wires it will
crimp.... i've got specifications on two jobs that i need hypress lugs above AWG#8, and the
die has to have the right witness number on it, so the inspector can feel warm and fuzzy.

the problem is with generic lugs. burndy lugs have the witness number on them, so a number
6 stranded one hole lug will use the die with 7 on the crimp face. it's marked on the lug.

anyway, i'm looking at this kit with with 12 die sets, and i am asking myself what wire sizes
can i crimp with this wonderful piece of bank account emptying metal... and it's not an easy
answer it seems....

the witness marks are 7,8,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,18,20, and the WDC one size fits all......
the die marks are different than what burndy has in it's catalog....

so a 500 mcm copper in the catalog calls for either a W34VT, or a W34CRT, and the die
in my magic box is W34RT, with an emboss number of 20.

20=34=500mcm... simple? of course........

is there anything anywhere that gives a cross reference for all this crap?

Not sure if this is what you want or not. Look at pages 31-41. This is burndy cross reference, http://www.irby.com/catalog/Burndy.pdf

Here are other brands cross reference: http://www.northendrental.com/Documents/Crimper-U-Die-Reference.htm

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Not sure if this is what you want or not. Look at pages 31-41. This is burndy cross reference, http://www.irby.com/catalog/Burndy.pdf

Here are other brands cross reference: http://www.northendrental.com/Documents/Crimper-U-Die-Reference.htm

You keep it up he won't be just naming his kid after you but he may want to marry you. :lol::lol:

 

[Fulthrotl]

Here are other brands cross reference: http://www.northendrental.com/Documents/Crimper-U-Die-Reference.htm

that did the trick. i was just trying to understand
their die naming convention, which is like trying
to understand the rules of cricket if you aren't
an englishman.

all the varied letter after the numbers don't seem
to make much of a difference. a 34 die will do 500mcm,
and that is really all i need to know. i made the poor
inside sales guy at mayday grounding a bit nuts asking
"but what do these letters mean?"

i can do everything from #6 ~ 500 MCM except 300 and 400 mcm.
if i ever needed those, and it isn't likely.

and the indenter die does those. truth be told the indenter die does
all the weird non UL lugs you might run across. if the wire will fit
in the lug, and the lug will fit in the crimper, it seems to work fine.
it'll do aluminum lugs up to 4/0. i was playing with 4/0 welding cable
and no name lugs, and they are NOT going to come apart.

i'm happy. i know enough to get the job done, but not so much as
to be a threat to myself or others.... thanks for the help.

 

[Hv&Lv]

that did the trick. i was just trying to understand
their die naming convention, which is like trying
to understand the rules of cricket if you aren't
an englishman.

all the varied letter after the numbers don't seem
to make much of a difference. a 34 die will do 500mcm,
and that is really all i need to know. i made the poor
inside sales guy at mayday grounding a bit nuts asking
"but what do these letters mean?"

i can do everything from #6 ~ 500 MCM except 300 and 400 mcm.
if i ever needed those, and it isn't likely.

and the indenter die does those. truth be told the indenter die does
all the weird non UL lugs you might run across. if the wire will fit
in the lug, and the lug will fit in the crimper, it seems to work fine.
it'll do aluminum lugs up to 4/0. i was playing with 4/0 welding cable
and no name lugs, and they are NOT going to come apart.

i'm happy. i know enough to get the job done, but not so much as
to be a threat to myself or others.... thanks for the help.

Page 31 of the first link explains the numbering system, to a point.

 

[Fulthrotl]

You keep it up he won't be just naming his kid after you but he may want to marry you. :lol::lol:

i'm spoken for.... and i'm not that easy.

today is my anniversary... friday the 13th.
it was jill's idea. we went down and got a license
on the 12th, and she got this look in her eye,
and said... oooohhh... should we? friday the 13th
would be *perfect*....

so, in two hours, we'd gotten rings, made hotel
reservations, and gotten witnesses for the orange
county courthouse for the next morning.

someone who can roll like that, AND be willing to
marry me, is a hard act to follow... even if they
speak fluent burndy.

i'm just surprised that the last two things i've bid
specified compression lugs on everything bigger
that #8 AWG.

and the wording stated that the die had to leave
the correct impress number on the lug. when
did this silly p00 happen? did i miss the email
or something?

 

[Cow]

and the wording stated that the die had to leave
the correct impress number on the lug. when
did this silly p00 happen? did i miss the email
or something?

I hope that spec stays off the jobs I'm on. I want to keep using this Burndy cordless dieless as long as I can....