LABOR ADJUSTMENT FOR WORKING HEIGHTS 10-20'

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NECA recommends increasing the labor for working heights above 10'. Why is that? Does it increase install time whether working off a ladder or lift?
 
Yes, but if the floor space is open, then working on a lift is very efficient, as opposed to a tight working space when working off ladders.
I usually takeoff the conduit using standard labor units. I only factor up on obvious difficult runs.

The way I see it, if it is a large job, there will be lifts needed on a majority of the conduit systems anyway. So lifts are always available. Any less efficient work off ladders is made up by the more efficient lift work. YMMV.
 
I am not sure why they set the bar at 10ft but they must have some data somewhere. The work time changes from an 8ft ladder to a 12 ft ladder myself i tend to slow down the higher I go just being mindful of fall hazard. If space and job permits a lift is always the way to go.
 
Rewire said:
I am not sure why they set the bar at 10ft but they must have some data somewhere. The work time changes from an 8ft ladder to a 12 ft ladder myself i tend to slow down the higher I go just being mindful of fall hazard. If space and job permits a lift is always the way to go.
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Makes sense....thanks.
 
We just did a stage where we were 86' up and could look down through a ribbed floor and the men walked like they were walking steel! It slowed the job way down and you could not fall through, but sure felt unsafe to they men; plus not wanting to drop stuff that could fall 86' to the stage. I had walked the job before bidding and added 48 hrs. for it, as the men did get used to it after 3 days.
 
sameguy said:
We just did a stage where we were 86' up and could look down through a ribbed floor and the men walked like they were walking steel! It slowed the job way down and you could not fall through, but sure felt unsafe to they men; plus not wanting to drop stuff that could fall 86' to the stage. I had walked the job before bidding and added 48 hrs. for it, as the men did get used to it after 3 days.
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Wow. :weeping:
 
sameguy said:
We just did a stage where we were 86' up and could look down through a ribbed floor and the men walked like they were walking steel! It slowed the job way down and you could not fall through, but sure felt unsafe to they men; plus not wanting to drop stuff that could fall 86' to the stage. I had walked the job before bidding and added 48 hrs. for it, as the men did get used to it after 3 days.
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I used to do work in power plants now and then. never really got used to walking around 100 feet off the ground with just a grating underneath. get a good wind going and it makes it even better. I had to walk out on a catwalk to the top of a fly ash silo once. the top of the silo was moving back and forth in the wind about 3 or 4 inches while I was tring to walk out to it on the cat walk that was firmly attached to the building, but not attached to the silo. The motion of the catwalk and of the silo was not in sync. very wierd.
 
Just completed a job running MC in a ceiling height of 19' up to 35'. The guys were in a large scissor lift with nothing in the way, all open floor. It still took them 1 1/2 to 2 times longer to run the cable than if they were working off of the ground or 6 ft ladders. Some one posted once that for every 6 ft you need to double the time.
 
ceb58 said:
Just completed a job running MC in a ceiling height of 19' up to 35'. The guys were in a large scissor lift with nothing in the way, all open floor. It still took them 1 1/2 to 2 times longer to run the cable than if they were working off of the ground or 6 ft ladders. Some one posted once that for every 6 ft you need to double the time.
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Thanks
 
ceb58 said:
Just completed a job running MC in a ceiling height of 19' up to 35'. The guys were in a large scissor lift with nothing in the way, all open floor. It still took them 1 1/2 to 2 times longer to run the cable than if they were working off of the ground or 6 ft ladders. Some one posted once that for every 6 ft you need to double the time.
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It shouldn't have
 
I just did a job on rolling scaffolds that was about 15-20'. It ended up being about 25% more than my standard labor units for 6' ladder work.
 
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