One big mess

[Stevareno]

Talk to the inspector discretely and point out where to look. Let the inspector be the bad guy.

Yep.

Just the other day, I was casually chatting with an inspector and he told me if I had any issues with an owner wanting to push things, let him know and he would be the bad guy. :thumbsup:

 

[HTT]

Thanks for the advise every one

Thanks for the advise every one

Although I did get a permit for the job the customer never intended to have any inspections and would have been dificult to get one in.

I hope they get things straitened out before there expensive solid hrdwood flooring is installed. I'm sure the floor costs more than my quote.

After explaining the dangers of the electric in this place my words fell on deaf ears to peaple more intrested in making money than safety.

I did alert the city to the building but am skeptical about anything being done about it.

 

[HTT]

Got a call yesterday saying they are getting occupanies in for inspection and was invited to bid on the work.

I guess they got a second opinion(like I recomended) and are now concerned with the building and the city.

 

[kwired]

I get those occasionally What to do. I would tell the owner not without a permit, inspection and a very precise defined set of parameters of what is being done. Talk to the inspector discretely and point out where to look. Let the inspector be the bad guy.
You win by getting what you were asked to do done and will get paid hopefully to rewire the place when its condemned.
My moment was the open 3/0 wiring.

Where is the Firie Marshall in this, does your state not have a fire marshal inspection to state the total number of occupants? Where is the health inspector in all this and what are either's power's in all this? Was all this done by his regular truck Slammer? :thumbsdown:

To bad you didn't fill in at least your State, patrons beware....

I can't speak for the rest of the country, but around here the Fire Marshal will be a starting point for action. He doesn't inspect to NEC, but if there is an obvious problem, he has authority to shut down businesses, order gas or electric service disconnections, etc. They will often give owners time to comply, but if there is no signs of any progress made, they will flex their muscle and shut things down.

Although I did get a permit for the job the customer never intended to have any inspections and would have been dificult to get one in.

I was going to suggest you get permits, especially if they were pretty serious about having you do the work at any point. Then you are not as much of a bad guy, you just did what you were supposed to do, get a permit before doing the job. Once the permit is there the AHJ is going to be involved, even if the owner doesn't have you finish the work.

 

[Stevareno]

I can't speak for the rest of the country, but around here the Fire Marshal will be a starting point for action. He doesn't inspect to NEC, but if there is an obvious problem, he has authority to shut down businesses, order gas or electric service disconnections, etc. They will often give owners time to comply, but if there is no signs of any progress made, they will flex their muscle and shut things down.

Agree. The Fire Marshal is the go to guy in safety related matters.
If you call the city, it might be awhile before they "get 'round to it". :happyyes:

 

[kwired]

Agree. The Fire Marshal is the go to guy in safety related matters.
If you call the city, it might be awhile before they "get 'round to it". :happyyes:

I bet they have no trouble in getting around to shutting the owner down if they have issues with the place:happysad: