Feeder to Deattached Garage

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chevyx92

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Existing install where there is underground PVC conduit with a piece of SER Cable from house to panel in garage. The PVC is basically a sleeve, it doesnt terminate in either panel. SER is listed for Wet location so, Is this legal?
 

augie47

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Nope.
In '08 the Code made it very clear in 338.12(A)(2).
Prior to that, many inspectors interpreted the Code as SE not being allowed as it was described as having a "moisture resistant covering" where as USE was specifically described as permitted for underground, but it was not as clear as clarified in '08.
 
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chevyx92

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Nope.
In '08 the Code made it very clear in 338.12(A)(2).
Prior to that, many inspectors interpreted the Code as SE not being allowed as it was described as having a "moisture resistant covering" where as USE was specifically described as permitted for underground, but it was not as clear as clarified in '08.

I had a feeling it wasn't. If it was USE-2 then it would have been legal right? Also then they would have need the PVC and could have direct buried the USE-2 right?
 

augie47

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I had a feeling it wasn't. If it was USE-2 then it would have been legal right? Also then they would have need the PVC and could have direct buried the USE-2 right?

Only problem with USE (in this application) is that it has to be terminated at an outdoor location. Some cables are dual rated such as USE/RHW. Such cable would be permissible as your underground and could terminate inside.,
 

hurk27

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I had a feeling it wasn't. If it was USE-2 then it would have been legal right? Also then they would have need the PVC and could have direct buried the USE-2 right?

Only outside of the building, USE is not allowed inside, it would have to terminate and change to a method allowed inside see 338.12(B) If a cable wiring method is listed as a direct burial cable then there is no requirement to use a conduit, but many still do to better protect it and make it easier to replace should it go bad, I always use PVC to enclose my feeds to trailers in trailer parks as with all the embedded gas electric and cable/phone wire close together it only makes sense to protect the feeders.
 
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