210.8(A) & GFCI

[m sleem]

The NEC says:

(A) Dwelling Units. All 125-volt, single-phase, 15- and
20-ampere receptacles installed in the locations specified in
210.8(A)(1) through (8) shall have ground-fault circuitinterrupter
protection for personnel.

Does NEC really mean only the indicated values?
E.G. there is receptacle 20a,220v or 30a,125v, does it need GFCI asper NEC?

 

[kwired]

The NEC says:

Does NEC really mean only the indicated values?
E.G. there is receptacle 20a,220v or 30a,125v, does it need GFCI asper NEC?

You must use GFCI for the receptacles mentioned in 210.8. All others are optional. Then there are occasional places in other articles that require GFCI like many art 680 applications.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

The NEC says:

Does NEC really mean only the indicated values?
E.G. there is receptacle 20a,220v or 30a,125v, does it need GFCI asper NEC?

No the gfci is required on 125V 15 and 20 amp so a 220V or a 30 amp circuit does not required gfci protection

 

[m sleem]

You must use GFCI for the receptacles mentioned in 210.8. All others are optional. Then there are occasional places in other articles that require GFCI like many art 680 applications.

From your opinion, the 220v and 208v or 30a receptacles located in bathrooms & below grade level could be GFCI or not. Still have doubt.

 

[m sleem]

No the gfci is required on 125V 15 and 20 amp so a 220V or a 30 amp circuit does not required gfci protection

Thanks Dennis,
but,
could you justify that?

 

[kwired]

From your opinion, the 220v and 208v or 30a receptacles located in bathrooms & below grade level could be GFCI or not. Still have doubt.

Thanks Dennis,
but,
could you justify that?

Read your quote again from post #1.

(A) Dwelling Units. All 125-volt, single-phase, 15- and20-ampere receptacles installed in the locations specified in
210.8(A)(1) through (8) shall have ground-fault circuitinterrupter
protection for personnel.

Only 125 volts and 15 and 20 amps is mentioned. Nothing wrong with protecting others but not required unless some other code section requires it, one common example for other code sections is swimming pool equipment.

 

[iwire]

The NEC says:

Does NEC really mean only the indicated values?
E.G. there is receptacle 20a,220v or 30a,125v, does it need GFCI asper NEC?

Yes it means exactly what it says.

You can choose to do more but you are only required to do what it says

 

[Haji]

From your opinion, the 220v and 208v or 30a receptacles located in bathrooms & below grade level could be GFCI or not. Still have doubt.

The NEC leaves it to your choice, perhaps because no accident has so far been reported for such non-GFCI uses.

 

[Gregg Harris]

Thanks Dennis,
but,
could you justify that?

What do these two outlets serve and where in the bathroom and bellow grade?

 

[m sleem]

What do these two outlets serve and where in the bathroom and bellow grade?

Any, those outlets for general purpose and located within 1.8m from water sink, do you see 220v GFCI is optional here?

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Any, those outlets for general purpose and located within 1.8m from water sink, do you see 220v GFCI is optional here?

The gfci protection is for people not the equipment. What the nec is worried about is someone carrying around a portable piece of equipment or tool. If the tool should develop a slight leakage then the gfci will sense it and trip whereas a standard breaker will not.

The equipment that is 220v or 30 amps is generally set in place and not moved around as other piece of equipment that plug into a standard 120V 15 or 20 amp receptacle. The portable equipment is more prone to damage so perhaps that is the reasoning.

 

[don_resqcapt19]

Any, those outlets for general purpose and located within 1.8m from water sink, do you see 220v GFCI is optional here?

The code does not require GFCI protection for that application.
Note that general purpose outlets with a voltage higher than 125 volts would be very very rare in a US dwelling unit.