cable tray fill

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How many 12-3 mc cable's can we install in a 12 " cable tray ? In a 24 " tray ? We don't have much tray in the building so just looking for help . Is there on online calculator that helps to do this like conduit fill ?
 
fill not an expert

fill not an expert

Basically 50% fill is max, tray will look full at 50%. But my advice to you is look at who made the tray for exact dimensions, most of these vendors have support and exact dimensions ( 24"x?) many have examples.


http://www.mphusky.com/fill-chart- these guys give some charts


If you know your cable sizes this will probably help you with some size conversion
http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-cross-section.htm


I know its kinda a generic boring answer but if I buy tray or enginerred cable manufactures are usuall very helpful, for example for conduit and cables southwire even has a i- phone app.
 
Basically 50% fill is max, tray will look full at 50%...
Fill is not percentage based, as the rail height has no bearing on fill. And it varies with conductor size. For smaller than 4/0AWG in ladder-type tray it is approximately 1.25 times the width in inches. See Table 392.22(A) Column 1 for actual cross sectional fill value.

Southwire shows their Armorlite as having a diameter of 0.527in, which is a 0.218in? cross-sectional area. 12in tray is permitted 14.0in? fill. 14/0.218= 64 cables. 24" fill is exactly double that of 12" tray.

Ampacity adjustment is another matter...
 
I agree with Smart$. According to NEC 392.22(A)(1)
"Where ladder or ventilated trough cable trays"
(b) Where all of the cables are smaller than 4/0 AWG ?shall not
exceed the maximum allowable cable fill area in Column 1
of Table 392.22(A) for the appropriate cable tray width.
However further:
(3) Where solid bottom cable trays contain multiconductor
power or lighting cables,
(b) Where all of the cables are smaller than 4/0 AWG maximum allowable cable fill area in Column 3
of Table 392.22(A) for the appropriate cable tray width.
Since Davebones did not indicate the cable tray type [could be solid bottom?]
In this case the permitted filling will be only 11 inch^2 [for 12" width] and maximum number of cables will be only 50.
Now-as Smart$ said-the ampacity will be a problem.
NEC states:
392.17 Ampacity of Conductors
(A) Ampacity of Cables, Rated 2000 Volts or Less, in
Cable Trays.
"(1) The allowable ampacity of multiconductor cables,
nominally rated 2000 volts or less, installed according to
the requirements of 392.22(A) shall be as given in Table
310.15(B)(16) and Table 310.15(B)(18), subject to the provisions
of (1), (2), (3), and 310.15(A)(2)."
For 12 awg 90dgr.C Table 310.15(B)(16) sais :30 A [30dgr.C ambient].
For the same depth [aprox.1"] ICEA P-54-440 Table 3-3 [recalculated for 0.53"dia and 30dgr.C ] states only 17.6 A.
 
I think the ampacity of this cable in these conditions has to be considered following [NEC]:
310.15 Ampacities for Conductors Rated 0?2000 Volts.
(B) Tables (3) Adjustment Factors.
(4) Adjustment factors shall not apply to Type AC cable or
to Type MC cable without an overall outer jacket under
the following conditions: ?..
A 60 percent adjustment factor shall be applied where
the current-carrying conductors in these cables that are
stacked or installed without maintaining spacing for a continuous
length longer than 600 mm (24 in.) exceed 20.
So the ampacity has to be 30*0.6=18 A
 
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