Feeder Taps

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charlie b

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The definition of "within sight" requires you to be able to actually see the item. In this case, as Bob points out, the Tap Rule's distance limits will influence the ability to see the item. However, there can be a wall between the two items, and if the length of the conductor is within the limit, the overcurrent device (it is not just a "disconnect") will no longer be within sight of the tap location. That is not a violation.
 

kwired

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When using the provision allowing for outdoor taps of unlimited length, they will not be within sight, unless your tap makes several circles or goes out and back to a location that is within sight.

Another good example that maybe is pretty common would be a feeder tap originating on outside of a building and the overcurrent device it supplies on the inside.
 

Ponchik

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I dont believe there is any requirement for a disconnect.
Not specifically a disconnect but Tap conductors must terminate into an OCPD which in turn will act like a disconnect.


Question to the OP. In sight from what? You mean the OCPD has to be within sight of where the tap is made? So another words you have to be able to see the tap and the OCPD at the samem time?
 
Not specifically a disconnect but Tap conductors must terminate into an OCPD which in turn will act like a disconnect.


Question to the OP. In sight from what? You mean the OCPD has to be within sight of where the tap is made? So another words you have to be able to see the tap and the OCPD at the samem time?

We just need to be clear to avoid any confusion to the OP. A disconnect is not an OCPD, and a OCPD probably is but may not be a disconnect. Also feeder taps do not necessarily have to terminate on a OCPD.
 

kwired

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Does the disconnect need to be within site from the tap location or can it be remotely mounted?

Question to the OP. In sight from what? You mean the OCPD has to be within sight of where the tap is made? So another words you have to be able to see the tap and the OCPD at the samem time?

Sure looks to me like disconnect (likely containing OCP) and "within sight" of tap location are the conditions being asked about in the OP.

There is no such requirement. It is fairly common for them to both be within sight but not a requirement.
 

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Does the feeder tap serve a separate structure, such as a shed? That would require that a disconnect be provided as the means of turning off power to the structure. But even so, that disconnect need not be within sight of the tap point.
 

infinity

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Sure looks to me like disconnect (likely containing OCP) and "within sight" of tap location are the conditions being asked about in the OP.

There is no such requirement. It is fairly common for them to both be within sight but not a requirement.


I agree with this, and with Charlie, Bob, et al. :)
 

Smart $

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OK here are the details;

PV system, tap in the MSP and then immediately outside to a fused knife swicth with no equipment located indoors.
Again, not required by the NEC. However, some POCO's require a line-side-tapped PV system disconnect to be adjacent to the service disconnect.
 
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