kwired
Electron manager
- Location
- NE Nebraska
Ceiling Fan Install
- Thread starter cleveland
- Start date
- Status
mjf
Senior Member
I DO!!!! Not certain an inspector would though
ADD: With the different types of touch control style dimmers, etc, on the market today, I would think a wall mounted remote would qualify.
Last edited:
readydave8
re member
- Location
- Clarkesville, Georgia
- Occupation
- electrician
Saw 2 that had fallen due to set screw not tightened against downrod (like Hunter Original).
Only time I can remember stripped 8/32's causing "fall": The fan was hanging by it's wires (don't know if pretwisted at wire nuts). The customer called me saying that he couldn't use his fan because of wobble. Yes it would run but wobble is understatement.
mjf
Senior Member
I saw 1 hanging literally by a (few)thread(s)....the mounting plate had been drywall screwed through the plaster into the lathe. When I got the call one screw was missing and the other.....barely holding on.
- Occupation
- Licensed Electrician
Saw one hanging above a bed from a pvc box with a lot of day light between the ceiling and canopy of the fan. Told the lady, asked if she wanted me to fix it. She said, "My dad put that in for me. I'll have him look at it."
kwired
Electron manager
- Location
- NE Nebraska
I've seen fans that were hanging from PVC boxes (non fan rated) for a long time with no performance issues.
I also once saw a fan that was mounted to an standard metallic octagon box that pulled down from the ceiling. The box was still secure to the fan but the box had been mounted with ~1 inch smooth shank roofing nails and they pulled out of the framing member it was attached to.
I also once saw a fan that was mounted to an standard metallic octagon box that pulled down from the ceiling. The box was still secure to the fan but the box had been mounted with ~1 inch smooth shank roofing nails and they pulled out of the framing member it was attached to.
rcwilson
Senior Member
- Location
- Redmond, WA
Fan dropping.
Fan dropping.
Our high ceiling family room has a large, reversible, variable speed, fan hanging on a 4' rod about 12' above the floor.
After 10 years, the rod set screw loosened, allowing the fan to unscrew slightly every time it was reversed. During a party, I heard a funny noise and looked up to see the fan spinning and swinging on two wires directly over the glass table. I yelled and people jumped out of the way. My neighbor, who is a famous stunt pilot and fighter jet ace, grabbed one side of the table and I grabbed the other. We barely got the table out of the way before the wires snapped and the fan auto-gyroed to the floor like a helicopter. Nothing was broken except a brass center plate & the control at the switch box was fried.
I noticed the pilot was white and shaking so I asked if he was OK. His answer was "Seeing a prop fall off anything scares me!"
I contacted the manufacturer to get replacement parts. They immediately sent an electrician to replace the parts and rehang the fan free of charge.
No problems with the ceiling box. I do check the set screw occasionally when I have a ladder out.
Fan dropping.
Our high ceiling family room has a large, reversible, variable speed, fan hanging on a 4' rod about 12' above the floor.
After 10 years, the rod set screw loosened, allowing the fan to unscrew slightly every time it was reversed. During a party, I heard a funny noise and looked up to see the fan spinning and swinging on two wires directly over the glass table. I yelled and people jumped out of the way. My neighbor, who is a famous stunt pilot and fighter jet ace, grabbed one side of the table and I grabbed the other. We barely got the table out of the way before the wires snapped and the fan auto-gyroed to the floor like a helicopter. Nothing was broken except a brass center plate & the control at the switch box was fried.
I noticed the pilot was white and shaking so I asked if he was OK. His answer was "Seeing a prop fall off anything scares me!"
I contacted the manufacturer to get replacement parts. They immediately sent an electrician to replace the parts and rehang the fan free of charge.
No problems with the ceiling box. I do check the set screw occasionally when I have a ladder out.
- Location
- Placerville, CA, USA
- Occupation
- Retired PV System Designer
Either they are very nice to their customers or they were already aware of a design problem with the setscrew fitting and were hoping you would not sue them.
James L
Senior Member
- Location
- Kansas Cty, Mo, USA
- Occupation
- Electrician
When I was just stating in the trade, the company I worked for used side-bracket metal 8Bs for fans, and we mounted them with 4 Romex staples. :blink:
I saw a fan fall, still attached to the box, because the welds on the bracket broke off from the box.hmy:
The bracket was still secure with the staples, though.
I saw a fan fall, still attached to the box, because the welds on the bracket broke off from the box.
hmy:The bracket was still secure with the staples, though.
- Location
- Placerville, CA, USA
- Occupation
- Retired PV System Designer
Maybe fan-rated boxes really are different, eh?
Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk
Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk
James L
Senior Member
- Location
- Kansas Cty, Mo, USA
- Occupation
- Electrician
No kidding.
Funny how we learn wrong things when we're just beginning, and somebody taking shortcuts is always there with enough logic to make it right.
wireshark
New User
- Location
- Massachusetts
Physics 2 engineering school - as long as the box can support all extorted the forces in the x, y and z directions you should be fine.:lol:
kwired
Electron manager
- Location
- NE Nebraska
One problem with that, the NEC still wants it to be listed if it is to support a paddle type ceiling fan.
- Status