commercial drinking fountains placement of gfci

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does anyone know what code article does it state the placement of the gfci outside the commercial drinking fountains so it accessible to reset the gfci
 
I believe you will find the "accessibility" requirement introduced in the '14 NEC in 210.8, however, the water cooler requirement is in 422.52 and I think it is a best debatable that the accessibility requirement applies.
 
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I almost got dinged on this! By design the receptacle was with-in machine itself.
Thus a metal pan covered the receptacle. I had to show the cut sheet to the
inspector. I was following the directions...what could he say?
 
Many newer drinking fountains(Elkay as example) have pretty tight rough-in requirements and are inside the housing. I believe someone here mentioned a deadfront GFI device once. Is that an option?
 
augie47 said:
I believe you will find the "accessibility" requirement introduced in the '14 NEC in 210.8, however, the water cooler requirement is in 422.52 and I think it is a best debatable that the accessibility requirement applies.
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Since the requirement for the GFCI protection is not within the scope of 210.8 (A) through (D) readily accessible should not apply IMHO
 
d1reyad said:
accessibility requirement are in the 2014 nec and not in the 2011
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The addition of accessibility requirements was added in 2011. 210.8 is word for word the same in both 2011 and 2014 (except 2014 says A through D instead of A through C, but D, which is for diswashers, did not exist in 2011)
 
I'm calling foul here. Along with all the GFCI changes for the 2014 edition a new section, 422.5, was put in to require all gfci's in required by Art. 422 to be readily accessible.
This, plus the requirements in Art. 210 for other GFCIs, makes all GFCIs to be readily accessible.
 
texie said:
I'm calling foul here. Along with all the GFCI changes for the 2014 edition a new section, 422.5, was put in to require all gfci's in required by Art. 422 to be readily accessible.
This, plus the requirements in Art. 210 for other GFCIs, makes all GFCIs to be readily accessible.
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So GFCI's required by 210.8 and GFCI's required by Art 422 need to be readily accessible, I agree with that. What about other GFCI's? Art 680 requires GFCI's in a few places, I failed to find any requirement for them to be readily accessible though. Art 590 also has some GFCI requirements but no mention of needing to be readily accessible. There is probably a few other places outside those mentioned areas that require GFCI as well.
 
mwm1752 said:
Since the requirement for the GFCI protection is not within the scope of 210.8 (A) through (D) readily accessible should not apply IMHO
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That was true prior to the 2014 code.
422.5 Ground-Fault Circuit-Interrupter (GFCI) Protection. The device providing GFCI protection required in this article
shall be readily accessible.
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Sorry...I posted before reading all of the posts.
 
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