black annealed tie wire
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electricalist
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- dallas tx
I'm only making an assumption but I think a co worker and I had the is and isn't debate and we couldn't find the answer that states yes on no.
zbang
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- Roughly 5346 miles from Earls Court
Is it listed at all or for anything? I'd be surprised....
flashlight
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- NY, NY
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- Electrician, semi-retired
It's sure widely used for odd little tasks....
John120/240
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- Olathe, Kansas
Iv'e seen it used to secure fixtures in wood frame buildings. The wood joist were no more than 18" above the drop ceiling if that matters. For ceilings in other uses grid support wires were always specified. That is separate wires for fixtures & separate wires for ceiling grid.
Are Zip ties also known as Ty Wraps listed ? They get used frequently for support of MC cable, thermostat wire.
flatlander
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- Diamond bar, CA , Tempe AZ
I'd say no.
12 Guage support wires
12 Guage support wires
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- Licensed Electrician
As far as the NEC goes it's a non issue, local building codes are what matters in this case.
flatlander
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- Diamond bar, CA , Tempe AZ
The guage and type is probably in another code book.
kwired
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- NE Nebraska
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- EC
Some are listed AFAIK. Most applications of use don't require them to be listed though.
I suppose in the case of the tie wire in question, if it is a smaller gauge then called for by a code but is listed otherwise to get the task done - it's listing possibly trumps the code requirement.
Somewhat similar example - ground rods. They do not need to be listed, but have minimum size requirements. There are smaller rods that are listed though and are smaller then minimum required size by code.
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