GFCI receptacle
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luckylerado
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Not the NEC but if you are usually putting panelboards in the garage or unfinished basement that might explain why you often see it that way.
Follow up: I have talked to four licensed electrician that do work in our town and they all said it is required by code. I asked them to provide me the section and none of them could. Two of the four told me that that they were told to do this on all new installs while they were serving their apprenticeships. I believe they were told to do this so the other trades had a convenience receptacle to plug their tools into while the construction of the house was in process. Thoughts?
kwired
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- NE Nebraska
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- EC
That is one common way they end up there and then they never get removed.
Another is in unfinished basement spaces you do need at least one receptacle and it must be GFCI protected. If there is no other specific reason to locate somewhere else this is usually the easiest place to put it - just a short nipple to the panel. Might get similar reasons in a garage.
mwm1752
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How about --- the panel is in wall space that requires a recept per 210.52 (A)(1) so the max away from the center is 72" & if used for construction is requred to be GFCI during temp power
K8MHZ
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I can't site a code reference, but I was told that we put receptacles close to the panels because of a requirement for serviceable equipment to have one. If they are in an unfinished basement, they get GFCI.
luckylerado
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I believe that is limited to HVAC equipment.
Dear apprentices, your "Journeyman" should be capable of providing a code reference for anything they say is "Required" or they are JINOs :happysad:. JMO
K8MHZ
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I am a J-man and if I am told to put a receptacle somewhere by my boss, it becomes required. I had a suspicion that only HVAC was covered, but it's about a 10 minute job to put one in. If an apprentice asked me for a code section, I would honestly tell him to either ask the boss, or look it up. We install all kinds of stuff that is not required by the code, which is a minimum standard. I would not tell him that it was a code requirement if I didn't know for sure. I would tell him why I think it may be required, though. It certainly isn't a bad idea to have a receptacle right by the panel.
Around here that GFI is usually what feeds the receptacles in the ceiling for the Garage Door openers.
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Westfall
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Similar to the upstream ground fault protection for garage opener, could this be start of branch to exterior outlets?
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Similar to the upstream ground fault protection for garage opener, could this be start of branch to exterior outlets?
mwm1752
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Always nice when you put specifics in the questions -- would save alot of time -- we can all agree the code section 210.52(G) (1) & (3) would require at least 1 receptacle in the garage or basement areas which sort of defines your 4 J man convienience theory & in case you didn't know 210.8(2) & (5) drive the GFI protection -- The requirement for a certain distance away from the panel is probably mandated by the" boss " who would have no reason to install the receptacle far away from the panel which would cost him time & material on the job. 3' of wire & 10 minutes total, no drilling makes sense.
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