Getting Gear In

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Alwayslearningelec

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Have new construction of small building where gear is going up to the 2nd floor which is about 40'. It's in a room on perimeter so it has exterior wall.
I guess it obviously matters how big the sections of gear will be. But would there be another way to get them in other than hiring a rigger or crane?
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We have often been able to use a lull. Some of them have a 40' reach.
 
OSHA requires a license to operate but the are easy to obtain. A lot of journeymen have one but it depends on the rules on your particular job.
 
I believe you're possibly going need to share, bit more information regarding building structure, other than Electrical drawing you've provided. New structure, w/parameter exterior wall.
 
You can contact your equipment rental company and they can come out and certify certain individuals on boom lifts and Skytraks (Lull). Secure the load and take your time. Have someone that know hand signals within sight of you. I've set many pieces of switchgear and transformers on multiple levels of buildings. I remember telling a GC early on in the project to leave 1 window out of each level until my equipment shipped. I had his confirmation in an email and it didn't happen. It's a CYA game out there folks! :)
 
Honestly, if needing to log (on-line) into forum and asking assistance in preforming this task, it's probably safer for everyone involved on that site, for you to consult, hire a subcontractor.
 
LarryFine said:
This is the kind of job (and responsibility) I would leave to professionals.
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In the big jobs that I have done, It is written in the contract that I am responsible for setting my equipment. Either I learn how to do it safely and effectively, or my profit margin becomes that much more less. I always set my own light poles with a Skytrak. Just half-hitch your strap, lift the pole, have an apprentice guide the base on the "J"bolts, then shake the forks to loosen the half- hitch and watch the strap fall and grab another pole! :)
 
I guess it depends on ones experience. It's really not hard operating a lull. I have used one a bunch, but never for anything higher than like 20 ft, but I would have no problem with 40. That said, I don't know if I would stick a guy who has never run a piece of equipment on one for a 40 ft lift!
 
Like the both of you, I've ALWAYS handled (and set) my own large equipment. His diagram provided, appears there's a ground floor, along w/first & the second floor, where elect equipment room is located. And apparently in reading posting, there's possibilities the building exterior walls are already up & in place. It's not enough critical information provided in OP's first posting, in safely making a judgement call in my personal opinion. Information that's obviously needed in performing a safe pick and installation. This possibly needs to be a "eyes-on" situation.
 
I think I would review my insurance coverage before taking on this kind of task. Some policies are pretty specific what they cover and millwright/rigger work might not be in the list of covered items.
 
horsegoer said:
At what point would stair be installed and be able to be used to take small panels up two flights?
We will have to get our material in and up and I suppose the only way will be the stairs.
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Typically the decks are poured without the stairs and portable ladders are used to go from one level to another. With a short building they might be all decked out before you see permanent stairs.
 
infinity said:
Typically the decks are poured without the stairs and portable ladders are used to go from one level to another. With a short building they might be all decked out before you see permanent stairs.
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And you transported material to a floor or two above using ladders? Conduit, wire etc.? Seems tough.
 
There is normally some opening (widow frame, door frame, etc) on upper levels where material can be placed by some type lift.
Think of the times you have seen sheetrock set a upper levels.

Talk with some of your field guys... they devise all sorts of ingenious ways to accomplish the task.
 
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