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    they forget stuff on the stove , and/or fall...

    they forget stuff on the stove , and/or fall asleep .....:happyno:

    i mean, if they just made a stove that shut down after an hour , a lot of FF's would sleep better:happyyes:

    ~RJ~
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    ah....well....it's good to have some sort of exit...

    ah....well....it's good to have some sort of exit plan Hal.....8-)~RJ~
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    If such dooctrine were on my turf, I'd probably...

    If such dooctrine were on my turf, I'd probably be posting from the graybar hotel.....~RJ~
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    my only experience is mutlipe calls from multiple...

    my only experience is mutlipe calls from multiple customers in town, compressors blowing fuses on 3 ph equipment.

    instead of 208/120, it was around 190/80V

    after realizing they were served...
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    what is 'uniground'....? :?~RJ~

    what is 'uniground'....? :?~RJ~
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    I believe 310.15 (A) 2 ex addresses this ~RJ~

    I believe 310.15 (A) 2 ex addresses this

    ~RJ~
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    well the accessibility issues w/commercial...

    well the accessibility issues w/commercial kitchens are compounded by what is often larger motorized equipment that does not accept loto....~RJ~
  8. It's an interesting thought......i guess i'll be...

    It's an interesting thought......i guess i'll be more aware of missing screws now ;)~RJ~
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    and we do thank you Pete. credibility is not...

    and we do thank you Pete.

    credibility is not the sole penchant of manufacturers, we are the final petri dish, we constitute viability in the sense of front line /end user ,than that of shill...
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    I speak/write rather clearly, thx Al The...

    I speak/write rather clearly, thx Al

    The bottom line to 99% of all afci threads is simple

    'how does it work'?:?

    Now we can ring up manufacturers specs ,aka 110.3B , on any make model, can...
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    We're well aware GE is different Al, the doc's...

    We're well aware GE is different Al, the doc's have been around for a while



    My Q to you is, are you taking it as stand alone gospel, or do all the supporting docs not count?

    ~RJ~
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    It's a repetitive request on any pro forum Al. ...

    It's a repetitive request on any pro forum Al.

    Myself, i post the sources available.

    Further, i've seen you post no more than opinion

    so who's got game?8-)

    ~S~
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    We installed a seperate 200A commercial service ,...

    We installed a seperate 200A commercial service , just for an on demand hot h20 unit that serves a 9 unit joint in town:ashamed:

    I actually made an effort to thwart the landlord,:happyno: who was...
  14. Somewhat a euro design then? ~RJ~

    Somewhat a euro design then? ~RJ~
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    It's my daily dose from the 'land code forgot'...

    It's my daily dose from the 'land code forgot' Larry.....8-)~RJ~
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    And therin lies the problem Al nothing we do...

    And therin lies the problem Al

    nothing we do /use /install in the physical universe should be based on belief

    thx

    ~RJ~
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    well.....i suppose i'm a 'closet spark'...

    well.....i suppose i'm a 'closet spark' then....:ashamed:

    today's gem...>

    https://i.imgur.com/yQBnUhj.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/ZEKnb4U.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/F5HQhwv.jpg

    ~RJ~
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    Wouldn't any manufacturers docs hail directly...

    Wouldn't any manufacturers docs hail directly from UL1699 Al?

    110.3B>>>UL1699.

    Which ,incidentally, was parsed out in detail via Dr Joe Engle's '12 IEEE disertation.

    Assuming this digestable...
  19. https://lms.ulknowledgeservices.com/catalog/displa...

    https://lms.ulknowledgeservices.com/catalog/display.resource.aspx?resourceid=405152

    ~RJ~
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    Rather unsettling indeed:happysad: Any...

    Rather unsettling indeed:happysad:

    Any international standard less than a group effort obviously allows bais

    ~RJ~
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    Al, the point is, that technical data details...

    Al, the point is, that technical data details why field testing will never and a day be acceptable.

    UL created a standard (instead of testing to one) that can not be duplicated w/o a...
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    UL1699 covers them all Al ~RJ~

    UL1699
    covers them all Al

    ~RJ~
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    The nema-afci task force phd level EE chair...

    The nema-afci task force phd level EE chair himself has offered his public (as well as cmp-2 '14 rop) opinion on the product>

    ...
  24. i once had a job running pipe & grounding a ham...

    i once had a job running pipe & grounding a ham radio on a mountain top, needing guidance i finally found a 780 guy

    i installed as advised.....but i'll be the 1st to say i had no clue as to the...
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    Further ..... ...

    Further .....

    http://xn----mtbbcw1ale.xn--p1ai/wp-content/themes/meandr/gost/IEC62606.pdf

    ~RJ~
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