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  1. Thread: GE af breaker

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    You're welcome and I agree. Obviously...

    You're welcome and I agree.





    Obviously the BR isn't listed to use on MWBC's, at least not yet. I am still curious to run a test on it at some point when I have a need to purchase more of...
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    Fixed. I had to clear out my sent messages....

    Fixed. I had to clear out my sent messages. :slaphead:
  3. Thread: GE af breaker

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    :? Still plenty of room in my inbox. Did you...

    :?

    Still plenty of room in my inbox. Did you get a message?
  4. Thread: GE af breaker

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    But AFCI requirements are omitted? I'm envious. ;)

    But AFCI requirements are omitted? I'm envious. ;)
  5. Thread: GE af breaker

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    No, it did not. Homeline and QO breakers do...

    No, it did not. Homeline and QO breakers do contain GFPE and will trip with a N-G fault.
  6. Thread: GE af breaker

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    The bottom line for me is this - the only way to...

    The bottom line for me is this - the only way to know for sure is to test the breaker as I did. The manufacturers literature offers very little to nothing in the way of definitive information and...
  7. Thread: GE af breaker

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    I'm not sure where he stands at the moment, but I...

    I'm not sure where he stands at the moment, but I know what I saw when I performed those tests.
  8. Thread: GE af breaker

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    If you're so inclined, you can mosey down to your...

    If you're so inclined, you can mosey down to your local big box store and purchase an Eaton BR breaker, and obtain the same leaflet.
  9. Thread: GE af breaker

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    Agreed, it's a one-size-fits-all for all their...

    Agreed, it's a one-size-fits-all for all their electronic breakers for all of North America. :roll:
  10. Thread: GE af breaker

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    I posted them above. What I infer from the...

    I posted them above.

    What I infer from the instructions and proved with my field tests is that the AF breaker does not detect a hard N-G fault because the GFPE is now absent. That is why it says...
  11. Thread: GE af breaker

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    https://scontent.fzty1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/r2...

    https://scontent.fzty1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/r270/62867472_10161932912925716_8910631162813087744_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_oc=AQnOhgqdjbOeabki-egJL2DhFlQCdUKi1BbYrfZ3-1MGZexjvOLX0FO9itJ9zMl6endR-qMsX6J...
  12. Thread: GE af breaker

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    Did you see the text in first picture I posted?...

    Did you see the text in first picture I posted? :huh: It's the same leaflet that comes with all AF, DF, GFCI and GFPE breakers.
  13. Thread: GE af breaker

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    Read it and weep, Al. 8-) ...

    Read it and weep, Al. 8-)
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    I'm sure the city of NYC has the resources to...

    I'm sure the city of NYC has the resources to enforce this. :roll::happyno::happyno::happyno::happyno::happyno:
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    Going from memory, the NEC allows a 6 pound...

    Going from memory, the NEC allows a 6 pound rating on 1-gang boxes. So, the inspector is not right as long as you're within that rating.
  16. Thread: GE af breaker

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    Precisely. :thumbsup:

    Precisely. :thumbsup:
  17. Thread: GE af breaker

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    You claimed I have "little credibility" despite...

    You claimed I have "little credibility" despite posting real world test results that prove the BR AFCI does not have GFPE. I welcome you or anyone else to prove me wrong anytime. The documentation...
  18. Thread: GE af breaker

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    And none of this changes the fact that the Eaton...

    And none of this changes the fact that the Eaton BR AFCI does not contain GFPE, contrary to your claims. 8-)
  19. Thread: GE af breaker

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    Why do you refuse to answer the question? You can...

    Why do you refuse to answer the question? You can still install BR AFCI's all day long on regular 2-wire circuits and be in compliance with the installation instructions. Why are you so hung on the...
  20. Thread: GE af breaker

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    Please don't put words in my mouth. I never...

    Please don't put words in my mouth. I never endorsed the use of BR breakers on multiwire circuits. That being said, I would like to do some further tests on them to see if it's feasible.

    But all...
  21. Thread: GE af breaker

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    I never said "Use these breakers on MWBC's." I'm...

    I never said "Use these breakers on MWBC's." I'm simply saying I have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the BR line no longer contains GFPE. Why is it impossible for you to admit that? :?
  22. Thread: GE af breaker

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    I don't care what you're not finding on the...

    I don't care what you're not finding on the internet. The leaflet that comes with the breakers now is dated 2018. Go buy one for yourself and see. While you're at it, conduct your own tests....
  23. Thread: GE af breaker

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    I threw them away. ;) But it doesn't matter,...

    I threw them away. ;)

    But it doesn't matter, the breaker still doesn't have GFPE in it. :thumbsup:
  24. Thread: GE af breaker

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    Eaton BR AFCI's do not contain GFPE protection...

    Eaton BR AFCI's do not contain GFPE protection anymore.
  25. Exactly. This is why those EC's I mentioned just...

    Exactly. This is why those EC's I mentioned just get them from the electrical wholesaler directly.
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