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    Making my own lighting

    I plan on making some of my own lighting to sell. I was going to try and find some wall mounts that I would mount my own made sconces. My question to all of you is if I need to worry about UL listing or any other types of regulatory problems. I'm not going to mass produce them. But if they take off I will make a decent amount. Any help would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_blew_up_my_linemans View Post
    I plan on making some of my own lighting to sell. I was going to try and find some wall mounts that I would mount my own made sconces. My question to all of you is if I need to worry about UL listing or any other types of regulatory problems. I'm not going to mass produce them. But if they take off I will make a decent amount. Any help would be great.
    i'm pretty sure you will need a UL listing to sell them in the US.

    a pretty good friend of mine does UL listing for a sign company.
    if you are interested, shoot me a private message, and i'll ask
    him about it.
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    410.6 Listing Required. All luminaires and lampholders
    shall be listed.

    Listed. Equipment, materials, or services included in a list
    published by an organization that is acceptable to the authority
    having jurisdiction and concerned with evaluation
    of products or services, that maintains periodic inspection
    of production of listed equipment or materials or periodic
    evaluation of services, and whose listing states that either
    the equipment, material, or service meets appropriate designated
    standards or has been tested and found suitable for
    a specified purpose.

    Informational Note: The means for identifying listed
    equipment may vary for each organization concerned with
    product evaluation, some of which do not recognize equipment
    as listed unless it is also labeled. Use of the system
    employed by the listing organization allows the authority
    having jurisdiction to identify a listed product.
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    I would think that there may be a huge amount of liability if one of your unlisted fixtures started a fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by infinity View Post
    I would think that there may be a huge amount of liability if one of your unlisted fixtures started a fire.
    I would think somewhere close to 100% liability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_blew_up_my_linemans View Post
    I plan on making some of my own lighting to sell. I was going to try and find some wall mounts that I would mount my own made sconces. My question to all of you is if I need to worry about UL listing or any other types of regulatory problems. I'm not going to mass produce them. But if they take off I will make a decent amount. Any help would be great.
    I believe it is illegal to sell non listed lighting in the state of Washington. Even if all the parts are listed that does not make the entire product listed.
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    Here is a little something from an office in Washington

    http://www.lni.wa.gov/TradesLicensin...ts/Elc0905.pdf
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    You can probably manufacture your own lighting as long as the lampholders themselves are listed.

    I doubt lampshades are listed.
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    Have always wanted to do this but without a ETL listing you are probably opening yourself to a world of liability: It wouldn't matter if the customer got hurt because they decided to lick the sockets, it would still be your problem.

    At the very least I would want to carry some sort of umbrella insurance policy with a very high cap.

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    listing or no does not limit your liability. (in re to manufacturing)

    if the fixture is NON LED you can get a general UL listing that covers all fixture you make.

    if they are LED don't bother if you are doing a small quantity, as each fixture model will have to be listed, quickly erasing any profit potential.

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