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    "do not connect to AFCI protected circuit"

    I was reading the supplied "installation manual" with a 120v Chandelier lift. It states: "do not connect motor to AFCI protected circuit".
    It is to be installed in a "residential dwelling".
    The code's position:
    "210.12 Arc-Fault Circuit-Interrupter Protection. Arcfault
    circuit-interrupter protection shall be provided as required
    in 210.12(A) (B), and (C). The arc-fault circuit interrupter
    shall be installed in a readily accessible location.
    (A) Dwelling Units. All 120-volt, single-phase, 15- and
    20-ampere branch circuits supplying outlets or devices installed
    in dwelling unit kitchens, family rooms, dining
    rooms, living rooms, parlors, libraries, dens, bedrooms,
    sunrooms, recreation rooms, closets, hallways, laundry areas,
    or similar rooms or areas shall be protected by any of
    the means described in 210.12(A)(1) through (6): "

    What a poor boy like me to do?
    My sarcasm is of a level that many of lower intelligence think I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadavidson View Post
    I was reading the supplied "installation manual" with a 120v Chandelier lift. It states: "do not connect motor to AFCI protected circuit".
    It is to be installed in a "residential dwelling".
    The code's position:
    "210.12 Arc-Fault Circuit-Interrupter Protection. Arcfault
    circuit-interrupter protection shall be provided as required
    in 210.12(A) (B), and (C). The arc-fault circuit interrupter
    shall be installed in a readily accessible location.
    (A) Dwelling Units. All 120-volt, single-phase, 15- and
    20-ampere branch circuits supplying outlets or devices installed
    in dwelling unit kitchens, family rooms, dining
    rooms, living rooms, parlors, libraries, dens, bedrooms,
    sunrooms, recreation rooms, closets, hallways, laundry areas,
    or similar rooms or areas shall be protected by any of
    the means described in 210.12(A)(1) through (6): "

    What a poor boy like me to do?
    Tell who ever is purchasing the unit that they need to return it and get their money back. I have run into this type of situation with commercial kitchen equipment that included the "do not connect to a GFCI protected circuit" disclaimer, whenever they are told they will not get the sale they usually cave. The problem is the manufacturers to fix, not the code(s).

    Roger
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    What if I set a 10 amp fused disconnect at the load center and fed this motor's circuit?
    My sarcasm is of a level that many of lower intelligence think I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadavidson View Post
    What if I set a 10 amp fused disconnect at the load center and fed this motor's circuit?
    I doubt the instructions to the unit allow that either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger View Post
    Tell who ever is purchasing the unit that they need to return it and get their money back. The problem is the manufacturers to fix, not the code(s).

    Roger
    ^^^^^^^
    Seriously this

    To the OP: It's not your responsibility to accommodate equipment that requires code to be violated in order to be installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadavidson View Post
    What if I set a 10 amp fused disconnect at the load center and fed this motor's circuit?
    NEC still requires AFCI protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwire View Post
    I doubt the instructions to the unit allow that either.
    I know, I know just looking for loop holes.
    My sarcasm is of a level that many of lower intelligence think I am.

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    If the whole unit is in the attic, I don't see how it needs AFCI protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter d View Post
    If the whole unit is in the attic, I don't see how it needs AFCI protection.
    my thoughts also

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    I'm assuming you can connect the chandelier to a separate power source?

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