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michalspike

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I failed inspection because no OCP for a new panel.
We relocated panel in a hotel room. 3 other rooms are connected to a same feeders.
120Amp OCP is located in a hotel basement. Do I really need separate OCP for our room?
 

iwire

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I failed inspection because no OCP for a new panel.
We relocated panel in a hotel room. 3 other rooms are connected to a same feeders.
120Amp OCP is located in a hotel basement. Do I really need separate OCP for our room?

What is the rating of the new panel?
 

Sierrasparky

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I would think the panel is a ML and rated at 125.
Unless some local code I would think compliant.
 

augie47

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I have main lug panel. Can I install 60 amp breaker in my panel and unscrews lugs.
Will this work?
Yes. You can back feed a 60 amp breaker. Be sure to secure it per 408.36(D).
(I would still suggest you check the length of your taps to assure 240.21 compliance)
 

michalspike

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That tap is less then 6 feet.
We have to move panel because of the wall demolition.
Before there was a splice box with taps and panel next to it.
we moved this 6 feet from that space.
Is this change anything if panel itself is 150 Amp rated ?
 

augie47

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That tap is less then 6 feet.
We have to move panel because of the wall demolition.
Before there was a splice box with taps and panel next to it.
we moved this 6 feet from that space.
Is this change anything if panel itself is 150 Amp rated ?
If it's a 150 amp panel AND your tap conductors are full size (based on the OCP device protecting them), the install would be legal.

Do you have any idea how I can secure this breaker?
The panel/breaker manufacturer should have a listed device for accomplishing this.
 

augie47

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Then, depending on specifics, you would have to terminate at a OCP device rated no more than 70 amps (60 amps if its Romex)
 

augie47

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Gus, what makes this a tap and not just a sub from a feeder?
The #6 ! If he had full size (120 amp in his case if I recall correctly) conductors then any sub-panel with a rating that high would be considered to be protected by the (feeder main).
Once he reduced to a #6, that conductor meets the Art 240 definition of a "tap" and must be protected per the 240.21 tap rules.
Did I overlook or misread something ?
 
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