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    Do installed receptacles need to always be hot ?

    For receptacle requirements in habitable rooms. Does it say anywhere that they have to be live.
    A women wanted a switch to control all the duplex receptacles in a room. This has me thinking. I've seen duplex receptacles where the entire duplex is switched not half. Would that violate code? If not can the whole room be switched. ???
    There's specs for receptacle requirements. But is there any article stateing they have to be live, or is it assumed, or they don't have to be constantly hot ????

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    i think 210.52(2) might be interpreted to say that.
    At my age, I'm accustomed to restaurants asking me to pay in advance, but now my bank has started sending me their calendar one month at a time.

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    I would suggest split-wiring, so every receptacle is half-hot, half-switched.
    Code references based on 2005 NEC
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    I don't see in 210.52(2) where it says the recept needs to be live. It mentions placement ????

    1/2 switched yes I agree. But would the entire duplex switched violate code ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ritelec View Post
    I don't see in 210.52(2) where it says the recept needs to be live. It mentions placement ????

    1/2 switched yes I agree. But would the entire duplex switched violate code ?
    Yes, it's a violation if that receptacle needs to be counted for the 6'/12' rule.
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    All responses based on the 2014 NEC unless otherwise noted

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    210.52 Dwelling Unit Receptacle Outlets. This section provides requirements for 125-volt, 15- and 20-ampere receptacle
    outlets. The receptacles required by this section shall be in addition to any receptacle that is:

    (2) Controlled by a wall switch in accordance with 210.70(A)(1), Exception No. 1,
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    Quote Originally Posted by augie47 View Post
    i think 210.52(2) might be interpreted to say that.
    210.52(2) says you can have an outlet controlled by a wall switch per 210.70(A)(1) which is for lighting in addition to the required outlets. My interpretation is you could also have outlets controlled by a wall switch that is not related to 210.70(A)(1) i.e. not for lighting. In other words, all outlets can be controlled by a wall switch and do not have to be live at all times. The purpose of the 6/12' rule is to eliminate the need for extension cords. Switching off the power when a room is not in use does not cause extension cords to be needed. You could also flip the breaker off and I see no prohibition for that.


    2) Controlled by a wall switch in accordance with

    210.70(A)(1), Exception No. 1

    210.70(A)(1) Habitable Rooms. At least one wall switch–controlled
    lighting outlet shall be installed in every habitable room
    and bathroom.
    Exception No. 1: In other than kitchens and bathrooms,
    one or more receptacles controlled by a wall switch shall
    be permitted in lieu of lighting outlets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by infinity View Post
    Yes, it's a violation if that receptacle needs to be counted for the 6'/12' rule.
    I agree it's a violation and I understand it would need to be hot. But I don't thnk it says that receptacle needs to be energized. I think it's assumed.






    Not a bigger. Just wondering Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coppersmith View Post
    . In other words, all outlets can be controlled by a wall switch and do not have to be live at all times.
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    ????? Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ritelec View Post
    ????? Lol.
    Why is that funny? People are weird. Some want all their outlets off when not in use. Perhaps for safety. IDK. I once had a client who didn't want any receptacles in her kitchen.

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