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    Quote Originally Posted by augie47 View Post
    Keep in mind the 1st guy may have left due to not being paid
    99.9% chance that is the case.
    Find out who the EC was and call him

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdslotz View Post
    99.9% chance that is the case.
    Find out who the EC was and call him
    The general contractor is the home owner.... actually has a license as a contractor

    I'm not familiar with how liability insurance works....I'm going to call my insurance provider later


    Things happen....it's the price of running a business....i just want to make sure I'm covered by liability.
    .....Still just happy to be here.....

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    I looked at a job recently that I was to do the control work on. The EC on the job was only doing the building etc. When I called in about permitting my portion, the area inspector asked “What building?” Not a good question at that stage. I didn’t get the project due to the number of zeros in my guesstimate, but most likely I got the blame for the stop work order.

    CYA.
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    You sound like you are hungry, don't let the need for work cloud your judgement. I would rather lose money on bidding and not getting jobs than winning and getting hosed, tread lightly, do your homework. GC personal work will be a pita.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shputnik View Post
    Does Crouse hinds list Murray breakers?
    Quote Originally Posted by LarryFine View Post
    I believe you'll find that BR is the line you want. Check the panel label if it's still there.

    Crouse-Hinds was Murray, and Murray is the successor company, since Siemens bought the Crouse-Hinds distribution line from Cooper, and restored the original name, the breaker catalog numbers should be the same. Crouse-Hinds did list ITE, EQ-P, and EQ-T, Bryant BR, as acceptable in a lot of loadcenters, Murray is the OEM replacement though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shputnik View Post
    Had a home owner call me to finish a project that another Electrician didn't finish....for one reason or another....it's a kitchen remodel....

    How would you bid it? I can't see me doing it for anything but time and material because I don't know what loose ends there are.


    I'm new to the estimating side of things
    Don't run from a job like this. Proceed with caution and CHARGE LARGE! And ask for payment daily if that's what it takes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcal View Post
    Crouse-Hinds was Murray, and Murray is the successor company, since Siemens bought the Crouse-Hinds distribution line from Cooper, and restored the original name, the breaker catalog numbers should be the same. Crouse-Hinds did list ITE, EQ-P, and EQ-T, Bryant BR, as acceptable in a lot of loadcenters, Murray is the OEM replacement though.
    BR line is part of Eaton now, and this may lead to some confusion of what is acceptable today.
    I live for today, I'm just a day behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shputnik View Post
    The general contractor is the home owner.... actually has a license as a contractor

    I'm not familiar with how liability insurance works....I'm going to call my insurance provider later


    Things happen....it's the price of running a business....i just want to make sure I'm covered by liability.
    If the owner is a contractor does he have a permit for the job and if so was there a rough inspection? The original EC should be on record for the rough-in.

    If they passed a rough inspection then the rest of the work on a kitchen remodel is much like service work. You install receptacles all the time on circuits installed by others with no option to open walls and check the wiring.

    I don't know how things work in your area but here if another electrician is listed as the electrician of record on a job then they must be officially replaced on the permit before work continues. The original EC has to sign a document saying that he had quite the job and close out his permit and that all financial matters are settled.
    The 95% of people that you can't trust give the other 5% a bad name.

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    Sometimes people just don't get along and decide to split ways even if neither has really done anything wrong.

    Maybe the other EC was the one that did something that didn't go well with client, not all clients are bad. Fact the client is a GC, maybe complicates things, maybe wasn't a good GC if you asked the other EC about him?

    Be clear what you will or will not do and proceed at your own risk.
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    We did a kitchen remodel recently. The GC handled everything. He included a cost for electrical in his original bid to us. However, once the walls and ceiling were uncovered, it was clear that the existing wiring was, at best, hack work. The GC gave me a price for the additional electrical work. I approved the change order. I was present at the city's cover inspection and final inspection. I know, from personally seeing the new wiring, that the job was done properly. The extra costs were well worth it to me, as I know the kitchen wiring is safe.

    That is the experience an EC and a GC should get from the homeowners. I can't tell if you are looking at a similar experience, or at an unexpected disaster. I hope it is the former.
    Charles E. Beck, P.E., Seattle
    Comments based on 2017 NEC unless otherwise noted.

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