# Thread: NEC 2017 PV source circuit current using 690.8(A)(1)(2)

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## NEC 2017 PV source circuit current using 690.8(A)(1)(2)

Hi all,

I have a question about calculating the PV source circuit current by using the System Advisor Model in accordance with NEC 2017 690.8(A)(1)(2).

After the highest 3-hour average irradiance is calculated for a specific PV system, can this number be multiplied by the Imp current or should it be multiplied by the Isc? Knowing that the Imp would be the actual current that is going through the conductors under normal operation conditions and not Isc.

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Originally Posted by Electrical PE
Hi all,

I have a question about calculating the PV source circuit current by using the System Advisor Model in accordance with NEC 2017 690.8(A)(1)(2).

After the highest 3-hour average irradiance is calculated for a specific PV system, can this number be multiplied by the Imp current or should it be multiplied by the Isc? Knowing that the Imp would be the actual current that is going through the conductors under normal operation conditions and not Isc.

Thank you
As far as I know the DC Imax for a PV source circuit is always 1.25 X Isc.

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You want the highest three hour average Isc for the year.

There is an article about this in Solar Professional magazine 11.4 (July-Aug 2018) that covers the calculations using software. SAM can output Isc and Voc for the system but the article author chooses to calculate these values from other outputs. He seems to feel the values provided by SAM are not accurate.

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Originally Posted by pv_n00b
You want the highest three hour average Isc for the year.

There is an article about this in Solar Professional magazine 11.4 (July-Aug 2018) that covers the calculations using software. SAM can output Isc and Voc for the system but the article author chooses to calculate these values from other outputs. He seems to feel the values provided by SAM are not accurate.
Is the system >100kW AC? If not, the above does not apply; see 690.8(A) (1) and (2). The OP implied with his question that it is >100kW but he didn't say.

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Is the system >100kW AC? If not, the above does not apply; see 690.8(A) (1) and (2). The OP implied with his question that it is >100kW but he didn't say.
The OP did say the question was calculation of the current in accordance with 690.8(A)(1)(2). I gave an answer that matched the request.

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Originally Posted by ggunn
Is the system >100kW AC? If not, the above does not apply; see 690.8(A) (1) and (2). The OP implied with his question that it is >100kW but he didn't say.
The projects that I am planning to use this method on are 3 to 4 MWAC

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Originally Posted by pv_n00b
You want the highest three hour average Isc for the year.

There is an article about this in Solar Professional magazine 11.4 (July-Aug 2018) that covers the calculations using software. SAM can output Isc and Voc for the system but the article author chooses to calculate these values from other outputs. He seems to feel the values provided by SAM are not accurate.
I did a comparison today between the current calculated by using equation 2 from the SolarPro article, and the Isc that SAM outputs.
I got 10.8A from Equation 2 and 10.65A from SAM. Just for reference, if I use the traditional method [690.8(A)(1)(1)] I get 12.71A.

Which method would you recommend using? Why do you think the article author decided not to use the SAM Isc?

Thank you
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