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    Environmental effect (EE)

    So, my understanding is that because if the EE, on residential systems, the highest VOC that can be calculated is 600VDC but has to be debated 20% due to EE

    Do I have that right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by five.five-six View Post
    So, my understanding is that because if the EE, on residential systems, the highest VOC that can be calculated is 600VDC but has to be debated 20% due to EE

    Do I have that right?
    I'm not sure what you mean, but what you have to do is to use the voltage temperature coefficient specific to the modules you are using to adjust your module Voc to the coldest temperature it will be exposed to and multiply the corrected Voc by the number of modules in your string(s). For one and two family residences and for a lot of string inverters, that number must be less than 600V.

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    Quote Originally Posted by five.five-six View Post
    So, my understanding is that because if the EE, on residential systems, the highest VOC that can be calculated is 600VDC but has to be debated 20% due to EE

    Do I have that right?
    Around the northeast, multiplying voc times 1.2 gets you close for worst case temp for a "quick and dirty" calc.
    Ethan Brush - East West Electric. NY, WA. MA

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    Quote Originally Posted by electrofelon View Post
    Around the northeast, multiplying voc times 1.2 gets you close for worst case temp for a "quick and dirty" calc.
    so, the 290 watt modules I’m working with right now have a VOC of 38.8 times 1.2 = 46.56V

    take 600V/46.56 and 12 modules is the most I can get on a string and stay under 600V?

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    Quote Originally Posted by five.five-six View Post
    so, the 290 watt modules I’m working with right now have a VOC of 38.8 times 1.2 = 46.56V

    take 600V/46.56 and 12 modules is the most I can get on a string and stay under 600V?
    Yes, with the caveat that the 1.2 is only an approximation. Those numbers work out to nearly 12.9; it would certainly be worth doing the real calculation to see if it comes out over 13.0.

    Go to http://www.solarabcs.org/about/publi...map/index.html, plug in the location of your installation, and you'll get the low temperature (Extreme Min). Use the Voltage Temperature Coefficient on your module data sheet to calculate your cold adjusted Voc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggunn View Post
    Yes, with the caveat that the 1.2 is only an approximation. Those numbers work out to nearly 12.9; it would certainly be worth doing the real calculation to see if it comes out over 13.0.

    Go to http://www.solarabcs.org/about/publi...map/index.html, plug in the location of your installation, and you'll get the low temperature (Extreme Min). Use the Voltage Temperature Coefficient on your module data sheet to calculate your cold adjusted Voc.

    I’m going to need help on that. The temp extreme min is -1C the temp coefficient VOC is 0.30 and the VOC is 38.8.

    edit:

    I found this calculator that says I’m GTG
    Last edited by five.five-six; 06-05-19 at 01:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by five.five-six View Post
    I’m going to need help on that. The temp extreme min is -1C the temp coefficient VOC is 0.30 and the VOC is 38.8.

    edit:

    I found this calculator that says I’m GTG
    -1 deg C is 26 deg C below STC (25 deg C).

    Assuming by 0.3 you mean -0.30%/deg C, the correction is (-26 deg C)(-0.30%/deg C) = 7.8%, a multiplier of 1.078.

    (1.078)(38.8V) = 41.8V

    600V/41.8V = 14.35. You are good for up to 14 modules/string.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggunn View Post
    -1 deg C is 26 deg C below STC.

    Assuming by 0.3 you mean -0.30%/deg C, the correction is (-26 deg C)(-0.30%/deg C) = 7.8%, a multiplier of 1.078.

    (1.078)(38.8V) = 41.8V

    600V/41.8V = 14.35. You are good for up to 14 modules/string.
    thank you,

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    Quote Originally Posted by five.five-six View Post
    finding a calculator is good but understanding the calculations is better
    Always.

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