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So, my understanding is that because if the EE, on residential systems, the highest VOC that can be calculated is 600VDC but has to be debated 20% due to EE

Do I have that right?

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Originally Posted by five.five-six
So, my understanding is that because if the EE, on residential systems, the highest VOC that can be calculated is 600VDC but has to be debated 20% due to EE

Do I have that right?
I'm not sure what you mean, but what you have to do is to use the voltage temperature coefficient specific to the modules you are using to adjust your module Voc to the coldest temperature it will be exposed to and multiply the corrected Voc by the number of modules in your string(s). For one and two family residences and for a lot of string inverters, that number must be less than 600V.

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So, my understanding is that because if the EE, on residential systems, the highest VOC that can be calculated is 600VDC but has to be debated 20% due to EE

Do I have that right?
Around the northeast, multiplying voc times 1.2 gets you close for worst case temp for a "quick and dirty" calc.

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Originally Posted by electrofelon
Around the northeast, multiplying voc times 1.2 gets you close for worst case temp for a "quick and dirty" calc.
so, the 290 watt modules I’m working with right now have a VOC of 38.8 times 1.2 = 46.56V

take 600V/46.56 and 12 modules is the most I can get on a string and stay under 600V?

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Originally Posted by five.five-six
so, the 290 watt modules I’m working with right now have a VOC of 38.8 times 1.2 = 46.56V

take 600V/46.56 and 12 modules is the most I can get on a string and stay under 600V?
Yes, with the caveat that the 1.2 is only an approximation. Those numbers work out to nearly 12.9; it would certainly be worth doing the real calculation to see if it comes out over 13.0.

Go to http://www.solarabcs.org/about/publi...map/index.html, plug in the location of your installation, and you'll get the low temperature (Extreme Min). Use the Voltage Temperature Coefficient on your module data sheet to calculate your cold adjusted Voc.

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Yes, with the caveat that the 1.2 is only an approximation. Those numbers work out to nearly 12.9; it would certainly be worth doing the real calculation to see if it comes out over 13.0.

Go to http://www.solarabcs.org/about/publi...map/index.html, plug in the location of your installation, and you'll get the low temperature (Extreme Min). Use the Voltage Temperature Coefficient on your module data sheet to calculate your cold adjusted Voc.

I’m going to need help on that. The temp extreme min is -1C the temp coefficient VOC is 0.30 and the VOC is 38.8.

edit:

I found this calculator that says I’m GTG
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Originally Posted by five.five-six
I’m going to need help on that. The temp extreme min is -1C the temp coefficient VOC is 0.30 and the VOC is 38.8.

edit:

I found this calculator that says I’m GTG
-1 deg C is 26 deg C below STC (25 deg C).

Assuming by 0.3 you mean -0.30%/deg C, the correction is (-26 deg C)(-0.30%/deg C) = 7.8%, a multiplier of 1.078.

(1.078)(38.8V) = 41.8V

600V/41.8V = 14.35. You are good for up to 14 modules/string.

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Originally Posted by ggunn
-1 deg C is 26 deg C below STC.

Assuming by 0.3 you mean -0.30%/deg C, the correction is (-26 deg C)(-0.30%/deg C) = 7.8%, a multiplier of 1.078.

(1.078)(38.8V) = 41.8V

600V/41.8V = 14.35. You are good for up to 14 modules/string.
thank you,

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finding a calculator is good but understanding the calculations is better
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