beachbumjeremy
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I live in California and my general foreman told me last year it is now illegal to do live work. I am having a hard time referencing this material, anyone know where I can find it, thanks.
Iam guilty of doing somethings live just cause i dont want lower myself 20 feet and walk 500 feet each way.But thats my own fault.When it hits near 100 degrees i am not wanting job to last all daywireman71 said:Yeh... but EC's are very lazy about this. Why even take the time to turn anything off if it costs a little money, time and planning..
Jim W in Tampa said:Iam guilty of doing somethings live just cause i dont want lower myself 20 feet and walk 500 feet each way.But thats my own fault.
inspector23 said:That will make a nice epitaph. Before Darwin?s theory thins the herd, be sure to notify your next of kin not to sue, since you made the decision. :grin:
beachbumjeremy said:is there another reference I can use for showing that live work is not allowed unless wearing the proper PPE???
1910.333(a)(1)
"Deenergized parts." Live parts to which an employee may be exposed shall be deenergized before the employee works on or near them, unless the employer can demonstrate that deenergizing introduces additional or increased hazards or is infeasible due to equipment design or operational limitations. Live parts that operate at less than 50 volts to ground need not be deenergized if there will be no increased exposure to electrical burns or to explosion due to electric arcs.
Note 1: Examples of increased or additional hazards include interruption of life support equipment, deactivation of emergency alarm systems, shutdown of hazardous location ventilation equipment, or removal of illumination for an area.
Note 2: Examples of work that may be performed on or near energized circuit parts because of infeasibility due to equipment design or operational limitations include testing of electric circuits that can only be performed with the circuit energized and work on circuits that form an integral part of a continuous industrial process in a chemical plant that would otherwise need to be completely shut down in order to permit work on one circuit or piece of equipment.
Note 3: Work on or near deenergized parts is covered by paragraph (b) of this section.
winnie said:With enough pushback, more and more systems will be designed so that they can be worked _without_ exposure to live parts.
peter d said:For starters, we could adopt the Canadian rules that require service conductors/feeders to be in a separate closed compartment in a panelboard when the deadfront is removed.
iwire said:Live work is allowed for troubleshooting and when shutting the power off creates more of a hazard then leaving it on.
tallguy said:Troubleshooting should be easily identified... whereas "creates more of a hazard then leaving it on" sounds like an invitation to mental gymnastics.