680.22 (a)1 (a)2 & (a)3

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porterh

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Section 680.22(A)1 of the 2008 N.E.C. requires that receptacle outlets that supply pump motors etc. be no closer that 6ft. In order to be 6ft. they have to be of the locking and grounding type, single etc.

Section 680.22 (A)2 says that other eceptacles shall be not less than 6ft.

The required receptacle outlet by section 680.22(A)3 allows the receptacle not less that 6ft no further that 20 ft.

Why is the receptacle for the pump motor required to be of the locking and grounding type?

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suemarkp

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Perhaps so people won't be inclined to use it for something else, such as a Boom Box by the pool. I think the issues with all these distances are to keep corded equipment from entering the water, but yet no being so far away as to require an extension cord which could then fall or allow an appliance to fall into the water. A pool pump for permanent pools must come with a short cord (3').

Now if you have a boom box with a twist lock plug...
 

Dennis Alwon

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suemarkp said:
Perhaps so people won't be inclined to use it for something else, such as a Boom Box by the pool.

I agree I believe this is the reason. That's why I put twist lock plugs on my boom box--- Just kidding.
 

M. D.

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I think he is saying ,..what sense does it make to restrict the pump attachment plug when you could have 101 receptacles ringing the pool at 6' with no configuration restriction,.. seems silly ,..No???
 

suemarkp

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Good point -- I've got the previous years NEC in my head where the general use receptacles started at 10' away.
 

stickboy1375

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M. D. said:
I think he is saying ,..what sense does it make to restrict the pump attachment plug when you could have 101 receptacles ringing the pool at 6' with no configuration restriction,.. seems silly ,..No???


What is up with that? Is that an oversight that slipped by?
 

M. D.

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stickboy1375 said:
What is up with that? Is that an oversight that slipped by?

I don't think they gave much thought to it ,..at least I can't find any meaningful statements ,.. Just this

17-85a Log #CP1707 NEC-P17


Final Action: Accept




(680.22, 680.34, 680.43, 680.62 and 680.71)



__________________________________________________ __________

Submitter:

Code-Making Panel 17,





Recommendation:
Change 680.22(A)(1) to read as follows:



??shall be located at least 3.0m (10 ft) from the inside walls of the pool, or

not less than 1.83 m (6 ft) from the inside walls of the pool if they meet the
following??
Change 680.22 (A)(2) to read as follows:
?Other receptacles shall be not less than 1.83 m.(6 ft.) from the inside walls of
a pool.?
Change 680.22(A)(3) to read as follows:
?? a general purpose branch circuit shall be located not less than 1.83 m (6
ft) and not more than 6.0 m (20 ft) from the inside wall??
Delete 680.22(A)(4)
Renumber 680.22(A)(5) and (6) to be (4) and (5)
Change 680.34 to read as follows:
?Receptacles shall not be located less than 1.83 m (6 ft.) from the inside
walls???
hange 680.43(A) to read as follows:
??receptacle on a general purpose branch circuit shall be located not less
than 1.83 m (6 ft.) and not exceeding 3.0 m (10 ft) from??
Change 680.43(A)(1) to read as follows:
?Receptacles shall be located at least 1.83 m (6 ft) measured horizontally??
Change 680.62(E) to read as follows:
?All receptacles within 1.83 m (6 ft) of a therapeutic tub shall be protected by
a ground-fault circuit interrupter.?
Change 680.71 to read as follows:
??all 125-volt, single-phase receptacles not exceeding 30 amperes and
located within 1.83 m (6 ft) measured horizontally of the inside walls of a
hydromassage tub be protected by a ground-fault circuit interrupter(s).?

Substantiation:

The panel changed 5 ft to 6 ft and 10 ft to 6 ft for receptacle




locations relative to distance to water to ensure consistency throughout Article

680. The 10 ft has been in the Code for many years, previous to the
introduction of GFCI devices. The panel determined that 6 ft is sufficient. 6 ft
correlates with standard power supply cord lengths.

Panel Meeting Action: Accept
Number Eligible to Vote: 11
Ballot Results:

Affirmative: 11
 
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