16 gauge wire on led lights

[fd.sparky20114]

First Post in the the group. I was told by our ANSI inspector that we could use 16/2 between our led lighting on a 10 amp breaker. We currently are running 14/2 on a 20 amp breaker. We are building tiny homes to ANSI standards, however we follow the NEC for the electrical. Anyone know what the NEC says on led, 16/2, or it being on a 10 amp breaker?

 

[infinity]

#14/2 cannot be on a 20 amp circuit for your application. What code cycle are you on?

 

[fd.sparky20114]

sorry, 15 Amp, i beleive its 2017

 

[don_resqcapt19]

The first code that actually permits 10 amp branch circuits is the 2023. 210.18 in the 2017 code shows 15 amps to be the smallest permitted branch circuit rating.

 

[fd.sparky20114]

Ok Thankyou.

The first code that actually permits 10 amp branch circuits is the 2023. 210.18 in the 2017 code shows 15 amps to be the smallest permitted branch circuit rating.

 

[kec]

First Post in the the group. I was told by our ANSI inspector that we could use 16/2 between our led lighting on a 10 amp breaker. We currently are running 14/2 on a 20 amp breaker. We are building tiny homes to ANSI standards, however we follow the NEC for the electrical. Anyone know what the NEC says on led, 16/2, or it being on a 10 amp breaker?

What is the 16/2 wire do you propose to connect to a 10 amp circuit breaker?

 

[hbiss]

What is the 16/2 wire do you propose to connect to a 10 amp circuit breaker?

Good question. I'm not aware of 16/2 Romex. Thing is why bother. 14/2 and a 15A breaker isn't much more.

-Hal

 

[infinity]

I think that with 10 amp circuits the idea is to use copper-clad aluminum.

 

[hbiss]

I think that with 10 amp circuits the idea is to use copper-clad aluminum.

Yes. 14GA.

-Hal

 

[guschash]

I don’t see anything in table 310.16 for 16awg wire

 

[don_resqcapt19]

I think that with 10 amp circuits the idea is to use copper-clad aluminum.

Yes, that was the driver in the 2023 code. I have been told, that a PI to permit 16 AWG copper for 10 amp branch circuits got approval at the first draft meeting. We will see if that makes it into the first draft report.

 

[don_resqcapt19]

I don’t see anything in table 310.16 for 16awg wire

That is because the only wire types in Table 310.4 (310.104 in older codes) that are permitted to be smaller than 16 AWG are MTW and MI.
However 16 and smaller conductors are included in Table 402.3, with ampacities in Table 402.5.

 

[RCD]

Article 310.3

 

[guschash]

Thanks